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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    He did. Trump was the left's punching bag for a couple of years over the birther routine. I dare say it is what inspired him to play hard to get with his tax returns despite turning out to have no more to hide than Obama did.
    When did that turn out? Did I miss something? AFAIK he only released some old tax returns from long before his campaign.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Thing is though he relented instead of clinging to the fantasy into insanity. Trump has spent 40 years building a solid brand so being wrong on something wasnt going to take him down and was forgotten after he massacred the repiblican hopefuls and started butting heads with Clinton.
    A fake university scam makes a solid brand now? Perhaps in a world of gullible, badly-educated people...Which is really more sad than funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    I was alongside you mocking them, remember? Pissing on Fox news and nodding to daily show and john oliver skits was my bread and butter up until they turned on my demographic in 2014.
    How exactly did they turn on your demographic? What is your demographic anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Putting effort into my disagreement with your position doesnt make me a propagandist. When I care enough to dedicate time in debate I actively avoid parroting other people's arguments and try to use evidence from sources that arent right wing, just to avoid remotely proving the accusation.
    I called you a propagandist due to the way in which you sometimes write very questionable statements that reeks of the way propaganda is written. You know, writes like a propagandist, sounds like a propagandist, reads like a propagandist, must be a propagandist.
    The good old gut-feeling that Trump voters used when they voted. As long as it feels right, I know it is right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    It's a dig on people for parroting propaganda outlets instead of forming thier own ideas, which is exquisitely rich coming from a man who's primary post format is a a snide comment and a link to a trashy left wing blog like salon or thedailybeast and actual national propaganda outlets like al jazeera.
    Al Jazeera was agreed upon this board to be a reliable news source by both the left and right wing members around the time of the Arab Spring movement. What happened that it has to be called something else now? Were they too nice to refugees?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Craziest but loud and far reaching, you dont ignore the glen becks you mock them and admonish fox for entertaining his lies.

    The guardian and cnn are the epitome of the left wing media and entertained the lie without contesting it and I admonish them accordingly.
    I don't watch CNN, so can you show me something where they reach Glenn Beck levels of crazy? The news I find on their website usually read relatively neutral to me. I don't even think all of FoxNews is super crazy, even O'Reilly could sound like a reasonable human being outside of his show there.
    So I question that Glenn Beck, Alex Jones and CNN are on the same level of crazy and assume you're exaggerating here for effect.

    The Sean Spicer thing you linked is a terrible example because what Sean Spicer said was dumb even if you know what he meant. The only person who would think Hitler wasn't as bad as Assad just because he didn't gas German aryans in allied-occupied territory is a racist idiot. The comparison of two dictators based on what you find to be the more horrible way of killing humans is somewhat childish and relativist anyway.
    These arguments tend to never go anywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suraknar View Post
    The article exists for a reason yes, I did not write it...

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    The press might have "got it wrong" on Trump initially; are they any better now that he's king? Apparently not:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...t-trump-215049
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    The 1st 100 days:

    http://www.npr.org/2017/04/29/525810...evelt-achieved

    Arbitrary? yes. The first 100 days is often meaningless when looking at what a president is remembered for; but he did set the bar...
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    I like this article because it shifts focus from painting "red" zones as cultural backwaters, to the easier to understand "seekers of value".
    Perhaps not moral Neanderthals, rather people looking for a satisfying, realistic and attainable way of getting by.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...e-america.html

    Is the "blue" dream really only for those who have already arrived?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    I like this article because it shifts focus from painting "red" zones as cultural backwaters, to the easier to understand "seekers of value".
    Perhaps not moral Neanderthals, rather people looking for a satisfying, realistic and attainable way of getting by.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...e-america.html

    Is the "blue" dream really only for those who have already arrived?
    In other words, urban integration into national and international chains of supply, work, and transit leads affluent city governments to treat local funding beyond metropolitan lines like aid to third-world regimes.

    Urban government need to be closely-integrated with surrounding land of political relevance, and for more than just the sake of locavore-ism.
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    http://in.reuters.com/article/northk...-idINKBN17W03H
    World News | Sun Apr 30, 2017 | 5:36pm EDT

    South Korea says U.S. reaffirms it will pay THAAD costs; Trump calls Asia allies

    By Ju-min Park and James Pearson | SEOUL

    South Korea said the United States had reaffirmed it would shoulder the cost of deploying the THAAD anti-missile system, days after President Donald Trump said Seoul should pay for the $1-billion battery designed to defend against North Korea.

    In a telephone call on Sunday, Trump's national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, reassured his South Korean counterpart, Kim Kwan-jin, that the U.S. alliance with South Korea was its top priority in the Asia-Pacific region, the South's presidential office said.

    The conversation followed another North Korean missile test-launch on Saturday which Washington and Seoul said was unsuccessful, but which drew widespread international condemnation.

    Trump, asked about his message to North Korea after the latest missile test, told reporters: "You'll soon find out", but did not elaborate on what the U.S. response would be.

    Trump is stepping up outreach to allies in Asia to discuss the North Korean nuclear threat and make sure all are "on the same page" if action was needed, a top White House official said. The U.S. president will discuss North Korea with the leaders of Thailand and Singapore on Sunday after speaking with the Philippines' president on Saturday.

    "There is nothing right now facing this country and facing the region that is a bigger threat than what is happening in North Korea," White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus told ABC's "This Week."

    Trump's comments in an interview with Reuters on Thursday that he wanted Seoul to pay for the THAAD deployment perplexed South Koreans and raised questions about his commitment to the two countries' alliance.

    South Korean officials responded that the cost was for Washington to bear, under the bilateral agreement.

    "National security adviser H.R. McMaster explained that the recent statements by President Trump were made in a general context, in line with the U.S. public expectations on defense cost burden-sharing with allies," South Korea's Blue House said in a statement, adding that McMaster requested the call.

    Major elements of the advanced Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system were moved into the planned site in Seonjgu, in the south of the country, this week.

    The deployment has drawn protests from China, which says the powerful radar which can penetrate its territory will undermine regional security, and from local residents worried they will be a target for North Korean missiles.

    About 300 residents rallied on Sunday as two U.S. Army trucks tried to enter the THAAD deployment site. Video provided by villagers showed protesters blocking the road with a car and chanting slogans such as “Don’t lie to us! Go back to your country!”

    Police said they had sent about 800 officers to the site and two residents were injured during clashes with them.

    South Korea and the United States say the sole purpose of THAAD is to guard against North Korean missiles.

    Vice President Mike Pence reaffirmed the U.S. commitment to South Korea's security but said on NBC that Trump would "continue to call on the prosperous nations that the United States provides security and protection for to do more in their own defense.”

    The United States is seeking more help from China, the North's major ally, to rein in Pyongyang's nuclear and missile development. Trump, in the Reuters interview, praised Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping as a "good man".

    TENSIONS HIGH

    The North has been conducting missile and nuclear weapons related activities at an unprecedented rate and is believed to have made progress in developing intermediate-range and submarine-launched missiles.

    Tension on the Korean peninsula has been high for weeks over fears the North may conduct a long-range missile test, or its sixth nuclear test, around the time of the April 15 anniversary of its state founder's birth.

    In excerpts of an interview with CBS News released on Saturday, Trump said the United States and China would "not be happy" with a nuclear test but gave no other details.

    Trump discussed the threat posed by North Korea in a telephone call with Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte, the White House said.

    In an address to a summit of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations on Saturday, Duterte urged the United States to show restraint after North Korea's latest missile test and to avoid playing into the hands of leader Kim Jong Un, who "wants to end the world".

    Two-month long U.S.-South Korean joint military drills were due to conclude on Sunday, U.S. and South Korean officials said.

    The exercise, called Foal Eagle, was repeatedly denounced by North Korea, which saw it as a rehearsal for war.

    In a further show of force, the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier group arrived in waters near the Korean peninsula and began exercises with the South Korean navy late on Saturday. The South Korean navy declined to say when the exercises would be completed.

    The dispatch of the Carl Vinson was a "reckless action of the war maniacs aimed at an extremely dangerous nuclear war," the Rodong Sinmun, the official newspaper of North Korea's ruling Workers' Party, said in a commentary on Saturday.

    The carrier group has just completed drills with the Japanese navy.

    Japanese Defence Minister Tomomi Inada, in an apparent show of solidarity with Washington, has ordered the Izumo, Japan's biggest warship, to protect a U.S. navy ship that might be going to help supply the USS Carl Vinson, the Asahi newspaper said.

    (Additional reporting by Yuna Kim and Minwoo Park in SEOUL, Nobuhiro Kubo, Linda Sieg in TOKYO and Jason Lange and Doina Chiacu in WASHINGTON; Editing by Andrew Hay and Mary Milliken)
    Last edited by Shaka_Khan; 05-05-2017 at 06:55.
    Wooooo!!!

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