Trump Thread

[Shaka_Khan]

[Hooahguy]

A Tillerson-Trump IQ test challenge? Love it, I want it televised.

Also Pence doesnt seem to be much of a fiscal conservative, he spent at least $250,000 of taxpayer money for a planned walkout of a football game in which everyone knew the players would kneel. Shameful for the VP to be a paid protester.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

A Tillerson-Trump IQ test challenge? Love it, I want it televised.

Also Pence doesnt seem to be much of a fiscal conservative, he spent at least $250,000 of taxpayer money for a planned walkout of a football game in which everyone knew the players would kneel. Shameful for the VP to be a paid protester.

Political theater is part of the job.

One of the inherent advantages of incumbency.

In this instance, not even particularly squandrous of taxpayer dollars.

And when you're trillions in debt with no serious plan to do anything beyond slowing the increase of the debt, what's a bit of chump change anyway.

[HopAlongBunny]

The Donald is doing his best to fix health-care.
Obviously, the first thing to do is gut the mechanism that makes Obamacare work.
Without subsidies and without cost control, premiums are going way up.
Spark a crisis, and anything that's offered will look better than nothing; Art of the Deal indeed:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republ...s-into-turmoil

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The Donald is doing his best to fix health-care.
Obviously, the first thing to do is gut the mechanism that makes Obamacare work.
Without subsidies and without cost control, premiums are going way up.
Spark a crisis, and anything that's offered will look better than nothing; Art of the Deal indeed:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republ...s-into-turmoil

It is a pretty logical step, albeit fairly cold-blooded.

His party cannot be brought to amend it; the opposition wants to add funding support without fundamental changes.

The lack of support for repeal is because politicos and a goodly slice of the public already view it as an entitlement.

So if you want to replace it rather than paper (money) over the problems, you cut out a component or two that more or less guarantees failure in the near future. THEN the pressure for change will allow for action.

Mind you, I think Trump is miscalculating in that it will not be the Trump plan that rides to the rescue. I think it will be (sadly) the Sanders plan.

[Pannonian]

It is a pretty logical step, albeit fairly cold-blooded.

His party cannot be brought to amend it; the opposition wants to add funding support without fundamental changes.

The lack of support for repeal is because politicos and a goodly slice of the public already view it as an entitlement.

So if you want to replace it rather than paper (money) over the problems, you cut out a component or two that more or less guarantees failure in the near future. THEN the pressure for change will allow for action.

Mind you, I think Trump is miscalculating in that it will not be the Trump plan that rides to the rescue. I think it will be (sadly) the Sanders plan.

Over here in the UK, the Tory strategy for bringing about privatisation of teh NHS, a Thatcherite fetish that the electorate finds toxic, is to cut funding, increase demands, lower morale by other means, then finally crow that the NHS is failing and needs to change. Increasing demands is usually accompanied by a meaningless slogan saying "A Health Service that works for the nation" or something similar. Funnily enough, the Tories think the pre-Obama US model is the one to aim for.

[Beskar]

Over here in the UK, the Tory strategy for bringing about privatisation of teh NHS, a Thatcherite fetish that the electorate finds toxic, is to cut funding, increase demands, lower morale by other means, then finally crow that the NHS is failing and needs to change. Increasing demands is usually accompanied by a meaningless slogan saying "A Health Service that works for the nation" or something similar. Funnily enough, the Tories think the pre-Obama US model is the one to aim for.

Did hear about about Jeremy Hunt scrapping the 1% pay rise cap? The Nurses can be paid more.. out of NHS budget which is not changing and squeezed to margins already. It is like an employer giving everyone a pay rise from the same exact pot of money, there won't be a difference.

[Husar]

Mind you, I think Trump is miscalculating in that it will not be the Trump plan that rides to the rescue. I think it will be (sadly) the Sanders plan.

What is sad about poverty not killing people?

[HopAlongBunny]

What is sad about poverty not killing people?

But single payer would likely throw the insurance companies to the wolves, not to mention the effect on drug prices.
Will you light no candles for the downtrodden?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

What is sad about poverty not killing people?

I concede the need for Medicaid. There are those who are, in many cases through no fault of their own, unemployable. Such persons should have access to reasonable healthcare. I'd prefer it were handled by private charity, but recognize that the location of charitable service and those needing the service don't always coincide well in the USA.

I dislike the Medicare for everyone approach that is advocated by Sanders. I have never subscribed to the notion that healthcare is a right I earned by drawing breath. I know that there are many who disagree.