Trump Thread

[Greyblades]

This wiliamson fellow has a remarkably poor grasp of the motivations of his fellow countrymen: he focuses so much on trying to explain away the acceptance of trumps crassmess without ever taking into consideration how the previous president's performance has tainted the idea of the typical smooth talking president.

Also nazis hated jews fir being too virtuous? Dafuq?

[Montmorency]

how the previous president's performance has tainted the idea of the typical smooth talking president.

There's no reason to believe this had anything to do with white people's motivations, which had been nurtured over a period of decades - long before Obama entered politics.

More to the point, that's why most Republicans weren't driven to oppose Trump - the threshold had dropped too low in contemporary times.

Also nazis hated jews fir being too virtuous? Dafuq?

Just as he said. Per Hitler, in the Jewish context these were not virtues but tricks played by a virulent hostile race upon the German/European people. The fascist irony was that Jews were judged to possess positive attributes in too high a degree or toward a harmful end. Re: Ezra Pound,

However, I should here note that anti-semitism plays a unique role within Pound’s political system, as it did within fascism as a whole. For to Pound, Jews seem to constitute a kind a of parody of both of the two political identities which I have sketched above—i.e., the "authoritarian" and the "revolutionary" identities. Indeed, Jews seem to possess all of the traits that Pound admired, but always "in excess." Thus he would see Jews as too concerned with preserving their "cultural heritage," causing them to neglect the great maxim, "Make It New." At the same time, Pound also seems to see Jews as the agents of a destructive "modernization" of European culture. So too, Pound would see Jews as claiming an elite status, as God’s "chosen people"; they "stand apart," but not in the positive creative way of the Great Artist or the Great Leader. At the same time, Pound sees in the loyalty of Jews toward one another an inverted reflection of his own a vision of an artistic community. Jews are also, to Pound, too concerned with amassing private property, while at the same time they have spawned ideas (socialism, communism) which question the very right of people to own private property. And the allegiance of Jews to a patriarchal God represents for Pound a "cult of the will" gone wrong, while at the same time Jews also, he implies, love in the "wrong" way: perversely or too intensely. By thus representing in Pound’s mind a parody of everything that he himself wanted, Jews came to play a scapegoat function in his thinking, as they did for fascism in general. If we could only purge the world of "Jewishness," Hitler proclaimed, then we would have workers happy in their factories and bosses safe in their offices. So too, I think, the idea of a world purged of Jews meant for Pound a world in which true mastery and rightful authority (his own, for example) would be recognized by all men, and in which a loyal band of artist/comrades (Gaudier and Hulme returned from the dead, Eliot escaped from the clutches of the church) would together create that ideal community for which he never stopped longing—a world, in short, wherein authority and community would come together at last, in a joyous marriage.

[HopAlongBunny]

The search for voter fraud is going the way you might expect.
The demand for voter lists was rejected by some states, those who have complied find their data collected and stored without any real security. The data is not encrypted going in and not encrypted for storage. Passwords are exchanged between parties through email (which is also not secured)
In other words, the GOP is creating a data base ripe for hacking by those who might be interested in creating fraudulent voters

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...t-for-hackers/

[Beskar]

[HopAlongBunny]

The first charges have apparently been filed.
In classic crime drama fashion, the audience has to endure a "Cliff hanger" until the show gets underway on Monday.
I hope it's the Orange One:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/charges...rump-1.4376735

Note to self: need popcorn...much popcorn!

[Greyblades]

I suspect it is podesta. Even if we discount the investigation turning it's attention to him, the man has been a sex scandal waiting to happen for nearly a year now.

[Hooahguy]

I suspect it is podesta. Even if we discount the investigation turning it's attention to him, the man has been a sex scandal waiting to happen for nearly a year now.

Somehow I have a hard time believing that but okay.