Trump Thread

[Husar]

Husar, you need to stop trying to use your intelligence here. The basic mantra is: Trump is evil and can do no right. If you start your thinking from this 'given,' inconsistencies like other world leaders acting in like manner can be blithely ignored. If you keep using your wits, you will NEVER make it as a US mainstream media journalist.

Well, even though his behavior is not entirely unusual, one could say it is weird that he ignored the very strong advice from his advisors. After all he keeps saying that he knows the best people and has the best advisors, and then he constantly ignores them...
That's kinda like saying you need that AR-15 to oppose the government, but then you never start that civil war 4 realzies.

[rory_20_uk]

Well, even though his behavior is not entirely unusual, one could say it is weird that he ignored the very strong advice from his advisors. After all he keeps saying that he knows the best people and has the best advisors, and then he constantly ignores them...
That's kinda like saying you need that AR-15 to oppose the government, but then you never start that civil war 4 realzies.

To point out the obvious, he is a narcissist. He wants the best people around him to make him look good - not to say or do anything. They are his trophies as much as his wife is and as much as being President is.

So, for him to be publicly told to do something he almost has to do the opposite lest he appears "weak" and not the centre of the story.

Yes, it is only something a very ignorant, weak person would do - but equally someone with these traits lacks the insight into themselves to realise this.

[HopAlongBunny]

Is Cambridge Analytica's hook-up with Facebook going to push Facebook to 'fes up to the fact they are a data mining network, not a social network?

[Montmorency]

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[Hooahguy]

Well, even though his behavior is not entirely unusual, one could say it is weird that he ignored the very strong advice from his advisors. After all he keeps saying that he knows the best people and has the best advisors, and then he constantly ignores them...
That's kinda like saying you need that AR-15 to oppose the government, but then you never start that civil war 4 realzies.

Exactly. Personally, I dont mind so much that he congratulated Putin. Its the hilarity of his advisors telling him explicitly not to and then him doing it anyways which greatly amuses me.

[HopAlongBunny]

Exactly. Personally, I dont mind so much that he congratulated Putin. Its the hilarity of his advisors telling him explicitly not to and then him doing it anyways which greatly amuses me.

I think rory 20 uk said it all:

They are his trophies as much as his wife is and as much as being President is.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Exactly. Personally, I dont mind so much that he congratulated Putin. Its the hilarity of his advisors telling him explicitly not to and then him doing it anyways which greatly amuses me.

He wants Putin across the table, mano-a-mano, where he knows he can negotiate effectively with anyone.

[Fragony]

Exactly. Personally, I dont mind so much that he congratulated Putin. Its the hilarity of his advisors telling him explicitly not to and then him doing it anyways which greatly amuses me.

Do you always listen to people who give you advice?

[Gilrandir]

Do you always listen to people who give you advice?

If you personally choose them and hire them you are supposed to. Otherwise why did you hire them?

[Fragony]

If you personally choose them and hire them you are supposed to. Otherwise why did you hire them?

To advice you. And they gave poor advice. Not congratulating Putin is simply not recognising his government, very bad advice, Trump did the right thing doing it

[rory_20_uk]

Talking to him is recognising his government. Not congratulating him is implicitly demonstrating that the elections were dodgy.

You see, diplomacy often is dealing with subtlety and conveying meaning in different ways with different audiences. This is why often experienced, subtle individuals are chosen for this, not brash morons with cognitive decline.

[Fragony]

If election weren't dodgy they wouldn't exist anymore

[spmetla]

To advice you. And they gave poor advice. Not congratulating Putin is simply not recognizing his government, very bad advice, Trump did the right thing doing it

Not congratulating him is simply that. It doesn't mean we don't recognize his government. If Trump were a 'normal' politician and this were actually part of some scheme to try and change Russian behavior or get concessions from them I'd be all for a policy of 'detente'. Putin however is escalating his actions and those deserve to be condemned. Congratulating his election without bringing up any of the sticky issues like chemical weapons being used in the territory of our closest ally then it's a very suspicious incident.

I truly to wonder what Putin has on Trump. Did he kill a hooker when he was in Russia, do something pedophilic? Perhaps some gender blurring sex acts? Trumps complete and utter devotion to Putin is absolutely perplexing, merely being indebted to Russian financing can't have created such loyalty.
He's seems to have only signed on to the recent and limited sanctions because Congress voted in such a majority that they'd override his veto.

[edyzmedieval]

McMaster is out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/u...mp-bolton.html

[Gilrandir]

I truly to wonder what Putin has on Trump. Did he kill a hooker when he was in Russia, do something pedophilic? Perhaps some gender blurring sex acts? Trumps complete and utter devotion to Putin is absolutely perplexing, merely being indebted to Russian financing can't have created such loyalty.

Feels a kindred spirit in him. Both are bent on corroding norms and crossing red lines - Trump within his country, Putin - both within and without.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/o...tion%2Fopinion

[Fragony]

Not congratulating him is simply that. It doesn't mean we don't recognize his government. If Trump were a 'normal' politician and this were actually part of some scheme to try and change Russian behavior or get concessions from them I'd be all for a policy of 'detente'. Putin however is escalating his actions and those deserve to be condemned. Congratulating his election without bringing up any of the sticky issues like chemical weapons being used in the territory of our closest ally then it's a very suspicious incident.

I truly to wonder what Putin has on Trump. Did he kill a hooker when he was in Russia, do something pedophilic? Perhaps some gender blurring sex acts? Trumps complete and utter devotion to Putin is absolutely perplexing, merely being indebted to Russian financing can't have created such loyalty.
He's seems to have only signed on to the recent and limited sanctions because Congress voted in such a majority that they'd override his veto.

All of that is possible of course, but it's also just common practise to congratulate. Not doing that is just much weirder. The msm is no friend of Trump, they would spin it out of control