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  1. 03-23-2018, 15:26 #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Even Machiavelli acknowledged it was better for a leader to be loved than feared.
    Actually, it's the other way around. Better to be feared than loved, if you can't be both. Putin is pretty much both in Russia at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Actually, it's the other way around. Better to be feared than loved, if you can't be both. Putin is pretty much both in Russia at this point.
    You are rrught, he went straight against the idea that a leader should be loved. It's more subtle than fear though. Machiavelli was an early political realist
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    Trump has what he wants: a national security chief who doesn't bother with the details.
    McMaster apparently bored Trump to death with all the little details that made bombing N.Korea and Iran bad ideas.
    They may part company on Russia; Bolton is no fan of Putin; but Trump can stonewall on the Russia file 'til he gets his war.
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    He probably wants a "Gulf One" hundred hours romp. Cannot find out where to make that happen though.
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    Can't we convince Raul to invade a Caribbean island with a medical school with second tier US med students? THAT would be the ticket...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    They may part company on Russia; Bolton is no fan of Putin; but Trump can stonewall on the Russia file 'til he gets his war.
    Maybe Trump will fire Bolton if Bolton pushes him too far.
    Wooooo!!!
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    Maybe Trump will fire Bolton if Bolton pushes him too far.
    Absolutely. They are both on the same page about Iran, but differ on any number of things.
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    Looks like the Palestinian government lost it's free money. I totally agree with it, go Trump
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    Looks like the Palestinian government lost it's free money. I totally agree with it, go Trump
    I hear you. However, chopping off the monies will weaken Fatah further and do only limited harm Hamas. No decision vis-à-vis the Middle East comes without nasty little strings attached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    Trump has what he wants: a national security chief who doesn't bother with the details.
    McMaster apparently bored Trump to death with all the little details that made bombing N.Korea and Iran bad ideas.
    They may part company on Russia; Bolton is no fan of Putin; but Trump can stonewall on the Russia file 'til he gets his war.
    You could have been at war with Iran right now, do you really want that
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