Half of Trump's actions make sense if you accept Putin as the real leader of the USA.
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Half of Trump's actions make sense if you accept Putin as the real leader of the USA.
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No they don't.Originally Posted by Shaka_Khan
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Yes they do.
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I think the Trump thread has reached it's ultimate level of argumentation...
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If Trump were directly acting on orders from Putin on a day-to-day basis, we would either already be much farther along into despotism than we currently are, or Trump would have been deposed.
Half of what Trump does makes sense if you accept him as the perfect Republican.
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Putin wouldn't want Trump to get deposed. Putin wants to continue to use him. One way to achieve this is to make it not too obvious.
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Putin is hardly the chessmaster, he gets too much credit. China is much more dangerous for Russia than the west.
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Trump is taking the USA in a rather isolationist direction and damaging relationships all around the globe by doing things that other countries just didn't think the USA would do - and once it happens under one president it might happen again.
I'm not sure what more Putin would realistically expect in just over a year.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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Fair point. He is about half Republican. In both senses.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
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It's perfectly sufficient for Putin to have given him a little edge to win the elections by spreading all those fake news.
Trump is probably stupid enough to cause the rest of the chaos all by himself.
In the Skripal case everybody already expelled diplomats while scientists say they can't prove the chemical agent came from Russia.
As dictatorial as Putin may be, what happened to due process and all our other ideals? Did we gaze into the abyss for too long?
Is it time for Germany to go fascist again and start another World War?
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Trump makes sense if you accept the fact he has no idea what he is doing and has no desire to learn.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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From Trump's perspective, that probably comes out as:
"I've demonstrated that I know what I am doing better than any of the rest of those chumps, so why should I waste my time trying to learn from them?"
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
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I don't deny that. And I'm sure that Putin isn't complaining about it. However, Trump seems to satisfy Putin with matters that Putin really cares about.
Last edited by Shaka_Khan; 04-06-2018 at 05:13.
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