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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Anything you say can and will be used against you.
    Apparently Micheal Avenatti thinks of Trump as "the gift that keeps giving".
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    Break out the bourbon ye Trumpkins!
    The House Intelligence Committee found "No Collusion!"
    The Democrat members of the committee beg to differ:

    https://www.npr.org/2018/03/13/59332...ia-conclusions

    Real difference or "apples and oranges"?
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    Protecting the Special Counsel.
    Some Republicans try to make the case that "really it can't be done"; this stance relies (largely not exclusively) on a dissenting opinion by Scalia in a different case.
    The problems with this view are many, but the clearest is, dissenting opinions are not law.
    Even if the dissent was not flawed (which it is) it does not have the weight of a decision.
    A nice discussion of the problems:

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-mistakes.html
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    Oh poor Michelle Wolf.
    The media has (not exclusively but mostly) been pretty negative on her appearance at The White House Correspondents Dinner.
    I saw most of it and thought it was hilarious, and pretty spot-on.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/04/29/60683...ks-at-d-c-gala

    She has always been fairly crude and outspoken in her routines, if they didn't want to hear the truth they should have hired someone else.
    It has never been part of Michelle Wolf's comedy to "pull her punches"
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    It is Sunday, April 29, 2018 and Putin is still a fascist; and Trump is still an asshat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    It is Sunday, April 29, 2018 and Putin is still a fascist; and Trump is still an asshat.
    What abou Kim? Any change in his ideological affiliation/mental capacities?

    As for Putin, he just wants justice and truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    What abou Kim? Any change in his ideological affiliation/mental capacities?...
    I don't pay as much attention to him as our media and as the administration does.

    To the extent that I do, I would note that Kim is a Stalinist fascist. He is an egotist -- but that is hardly rare among world leaders of any stripe as elected or not it goes with the territory.

    I have denigrated the metal capacity of NONE of the aforementioned. Putin is clearly shrewd (fascism does not preclude intelligence), Trump demonstrably sharp (asshats need not be stupid), and Kim has allowed South Korea to maneuver him exactly where he wants to be (Stalinist fascists pretty much have to be shrewd, and amoral, and vindictive...or they end up dead at the hands of their loving subjects).
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    Oh poor Michelle Wolf.
    The media has (not exclusively but mostly) been pretty negative on her appearance at The White House Correspondents Dinner.
    I saw most of it and thought it was hilarious, and pretty spot-on.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/04/29/60683...ks-at-d-c-gala

    She has always been fairly crude and outspoken in her routines, if they didn't want to hear the truth they should have hired someone else.
    It has never been part of Michelle Wolf's comedy to "pull her punches"
    This conservative site I think has a pretty spot-on assessment on what happened:

    On his way to the White House, Trump mocked women, Hispanics, the disabled, and anyone who publicly chose not to support him unconditionally. Granted he did so without the skill of a practiced comedian so his digs were juvenile and repetitive, mostly consisting of calling people stupid, calling them losers, or mocking the fact that they aren’t as rich as he is.
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    Many of those supporters are undoubtedly perturbed by Michelle Wolf’s attempt at comedy but fail to recognize the cognitive dissonance inherent in those feelings. You can’t complain about the level of discourse if you actively helped lower it yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    This conservative site I think has a pretty spot-on assessment on what happened:
    A site that wants me to fill out a captcha for "security purposes" because I'm a filthy foreign barbarian has to be trustworthy on such issues.
    That aside, there is a difference between a president and a comedian. If comedians are supposed to debate political issues on the level of discourse you would expect form a president, then they're not funny anymore, like all the conservative comedians that I never heard of I guess.

    That's assuming they're saying Wolf lowered it and not Trump, it appears unclear now, just going by your quoted part. No, I won't do the captcha monkey thing to get context.


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    Pearl-clutchers can suck it, they brought this upon us and they're still doing it. Also, the hard-right especially:

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    Korean rhetoric doesn't promise much different than post-Soviet collapse, or post-9/11, or post-Iraq... Watching and waiting recommended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    Oh poor Michelle Wolf.
    The media has (not exclusively but mostly) been pretty negative on her appearance at The White House Correspondents Dinner.
    I saw most of it and thought it was hilarious, and pretty spot-on.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/04/29/60683...ks-at-d-c-gala

    She has always been fairly crude and outspoken in her routines, if they didn't want to hear the truth they should have hired someone else.
    It has never been part of Michelle Wolf's comedy to "pull her punches"
    An event that celebrates the First Amendment... but only so far. I am not familiar with her work but if it is in line with everything else she performs it seems rather moronic to then criticise her for doing it. Asking her to submit her skit for the Propaganda Board to have a check over seems to miss the point!

    In Korea over the years there have been 5 or so very weighty documents signed on all sorts of things which have made little progress (proponents might claim they have prevented things worsening). I would be amazed if Kim would trade his regime's only card to prevent take over based on what amounts to a pinkie promise from Trump - a man who has spent most of his life breaking every promise he possibly can. Not to mention Kim probably wants to be where he is - or at least living a good life somewhere - for the next 30 years or so whereas Trump will be out of office in 7 years or less.

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