Trump Thread

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Trump absolutely has the power to pardon himself. "he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

There were plenty of Founding Fathers who leaned toward the "enlightened monarchy" camp and they left their mark in the extent of the President's powers.

Trump is above the law. Trump is the law. Your recourse are as follows:

1. Vote him out.
2. Take away his money.
3. Impeach him.

If this isn't to your liking, well next time remember elections have consequences.

Voting him out is, and was, the preferred method. Impeachment was, and is, the tool in place to remove an executive who was clearly in breach of the law or who was trending toward tyranny. Taking away someone's money was NOT supposed to be a function of government. Taking his money? Courts can fine him according to established criminal guidelines if guilty and individuals may sue him for damages, but these would have to occur after his time in office is concluded.

Trump is not above the law, though the law's ability to touch him is held in abeyance during his term of office (at 1201 Eastern, 20 January 2021 [or 2025] he could be arrested if an arrest warrant has been promulgated).

Congress could impeach him on malfeasance in office as a 'misdemeanor.' I believe they would do this if he pardoned himself while in office to avoid a criminal charge for which convincing evidence had already been proffered. I think Congress would impeach ANY President who stepped outside the spirit of the Constitution so completely.

I suspect, as noted in posts above, that he could pardon himself, again, while he is in office and entitled to do so. In doing so, he could avoid conviction for any crimes he may have committed. He would also, in my opinion, trigger impeachment and removal from office.