Trump Thread

[Fragony]

I think they keep them longer then, if I recall the reports, unless they can be released TO someone. Not sure if this is working well.

Who would that someone be, and who is watching them after them when they are released to 'someone'. As harsh as this all may sounds, there are so many possibilities for truly cynical people. I reckon that parents prefer to be with their children in the not so bad Mexico rather than be seperated from them. As atrocious as it all may sound at first glance it's defendable if you look at what is possible, I just hope it's for the right reasons

[Husar]

Who would that someone be, and who is watching them after them when they are released to 'someone'. As harsh as this all may sounds, there are so many possibilities for truly cynical people. I reckon that parents prefer to be with their children in the not so bad Mexico rather than be seperated from them. As atrocious as it all may sound at first glance it's defendable if you look at what is possible, I just hope it's for the right reasons

So in your world, all the people who do cynical things all day are harmless and all the people who do relatively harmless things all day are the cynical ones we have to watch? You're basically driving towards a cliff telling the driver to go faster because the earth could open up behind the car and swallow it, you never know, it could happen any time.

[Fragony]

So in your world, all the people who do cynical things all day are harmless and all the people who do relatively harmless things all day are the cynical ones we have to watch? You're basically driving towards a cliff telling the driver to go faster because the earth could open up behind the car and swallow it, you never know, it could happen any time.

So you say that *&()*&(*⁽⁽(⁽%%*%((

Reminds me of an interview posyed earlier here

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Who would that someone be, and who is watching them after them when they are released to 'someone'. As harsh as this all may sounds, there are so many possibilities for truly cynical people. I reckon that parents prefer to be with their children in the not so bad Mexico rather than be seperated from them. As atrocious as it all may sound at first glance it's defendable if you look at what is possible, I just hope it's for the right reasons

The separation of minors from parents while processing refugees/attempted immigrants has been occurring, at a low level, since at least the middle of the Clinton administration.


We already HAD folks walking up to the border with kids, being separated from them, and then having those kids picked up by relatives in the States....and the adults on both ends were merely transporting the kids for sex-work. They passed laws during Bush 43 to try to curtail this, and now those guidelines are, in some cases, adding confusion to the proper treatment of such persons now.


USA border/immigration/refugee/illegals practices and procedures are a patchwork quilt of band-aids with no comprehensive efforts to rationalize or resolve the whole thing. In part, sadly, that is because the current chaos serves some political and economic interests to a number of different "players" on both sides of the border.

[HopAlongBunny]

Donald Trump
Opiate of the masses?:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...upport-in-2016

So is opioid use and Trump support a symptom or a cause

[Husar]

Donald Trump
Opiate of the masses?:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...upport-in-2016

So is opioid use and Trump support a symptom or a cause

They're both symptoms of the same cause.

The neoliberal capitalist system and the inability or unwillingness of the democrats to do anything about it while they focus on minority issues (identity politics).
I'm not saying socialism is the only answer, because some of these unemployed opioid former coal miners still believe that full on capitalism will bring them the american dream from coal miner to millionaire or have archaic views about manhood being derived from the amount of coal dust or exhaust gasses a man can swallow before dropping dead.
Sanders could still have won though since he also promised radical change and to look out for the small man.

edit: should read the full article before replying, it's actually mentioned.

[Montmorency]

believe that full on capitalism will bring them the american dream from coal miner to millionaire

Building off the comparisons to pre-modern aristocracy, I have a new catch-phrase brewing for the trope of poor-to-rich socioeconomic mobility:

Nobility mobility is debility

Comments and suggestions?

[Gilrandir]

Building off the comparisons to pre-modern aristocracy, I have a new catch-phrase brewing for the trope of poor-to-rich socioeconomic mobility:

Nobility mobility is debility

Comments and suggestions?

I suggest

She sells sea shells on the sea shore.