Trump Thread

[Montmorency]

Dumb question. Might as well ask if you are excusing the dems activities; it's about as cheap a deflection as the one you imagine I was making.

What Dem activities do you have in mind?

Dems, if sanders gets cheated a second time you will see at minimum mass defection if not outright schism.

When was Sanders ever cheated?

The reality is that many vital government institutions that are supposed to be impartial went partisan; bought into fake op research, spent millions of dollars investigating a president for three years only to find nothing to substantiate the original claim while uncovering a level of unrelated corruption remarkably small compared to what could expected from the average presidential campaign. As the iraq WMDs were to the left a decade ago this is to the right in terms of destroying trust in the better judgement of thier security services.

The political class were worsely effected, the republicans were somewhat spared due to being host to Trump, being in effect neutered save for an increasingly irrelevant never-trump wing, the democrats however publically evacuated the moral high ground and shown themselves to be even worse than the admittedly low standards trump holds, both in terms of morals, credibility and even self control.

Every proposition in that excerpt is false I'm afraid.

They pinned thier colours to the collusion mast, pushed it far beyond what was reasonable and had to watch said mast sink agonisingly slowly in full focus of the public eye.

Democratic elected officials have tended to comment very little on Russia throughout Trump's presidency.

They nurtured the #metoo moral panic and tried to set it against a purposely inoffensive supreme court pick only to see it slip the leash; the dems lost control as the initial semi-credible accusation was swamped in fakery brought foward by cluless opportunists the party failed to hold back.

What moral panic?

Why do you think the Kavanaugh pick was "purposely inoffensive"?

Why do you think the accusations were not credible, that they were brought by opportunists, or that the party tried to hold them back?

Lies so blatant and foul against a candidate so milktoast; even the slowest of bystanders could see it for the farce it was and the attempted injustice served to break a oft-predicted blue wave upon the face of a republican base energized by righteous outrage.

Again, why do you think the candidate was milquetoast? Did you ever bother to read anything about him?

The 2018 midterm was one of the biggest swings in American history.

Republican women broke with Republican men on Kavanaugh.

Now the animal they raised in #metoo has turned to bite the hand that fed it; the greatest hope of the party now poised to become Creepy-Uncle Joe in the eyes of the same easily offended demographic he must win over. As for the runner ups the democrats have been forced into a particularly poor selection: we have the party outcast, an Obama wannabe tapping a questionably filled well and the national joke. If Bernie wins the neolibs dems are demoralized, Biden wins fairly the oft race baited segment of the dems will balk at electing a WASP and the pearl clutchers at a creep, an unfair win he loses the working class whites along with them, Harris wins and they have a handicap on regaining most of the rust belt and Warren winning is outright suicide.

Why do you think it's bad to hold men to the standard of not abusing women?

Why do you think Joe Biden is the "greatest hope" for Democrats?

It is not clear on what information your judgements of individual candidates are based, or why you think there is not consensus within the Democratic Party satisfied with any of the major candidates.

As for the journalists; the long flagging illusion of press impartiality is truly dead, killed by arrogance complacency and a complete lack of control in the face of momentary profit. FOX, the former laughing stock who has never reformed by the way, simply for being the sole partisan in opposition now grows fat off the corpses of those companies that onced admonished them who went on to eclipse them chasing the ever profitable "Trump bump". The entire institution of journalism, a century and a half of built up public trust, spent and wrecked in three years.

Why do you think the press is less "impartial" now than in the past?

CNN and MSNBC have demonstrably profited off the Trump presidency.

So the intelligence agencies are seen as compromised,

By who?

at best the established political class is regarded as pathetic, at worst outright malevolent,

That's been appreciated for many years.

the mainstream press is distrusted if not downright vilified

By Trump and his base, sure.

the chances of there being a legitimate removal of trump next year is already approaching terminal.

What strikes me is that, aside from being apparently baseless, it is not even connected to all the preceding. If Greyblades were somehow accurate in all his observations, these would still not contribute to a theory of electoral performance in 2020.

I fear Trump Derangement Syndrome will be with us for generations, intelligence has been no vaccine.

Why do you think there was no collusion?

Trump Derangement is Trump apologism.

I have yet to read a more thorough self destruction of a democracy's established class that didnt involve a war.

It's disturbing how little understanding you show of current events.