Trump Thread

**rory_20_uk** · 05-23-2019, 16:52

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

The e-verify thing is illustrative because it is an intuitive solution that the vast middle ground of people would support but is opposed by nearly all the special interest groups.

These employers want to pay low wages, want workers who can't organize, and want workers who can be easily "otherized" by the wider populace. They already do the whole repugnant dog and pony show where they try to deny them legal services. They want and underclass.

It seems that the USA grudgingly freed the slaves - as long as they can have people they can basically treat the same way and keep down as effectively.

I have to say the design of the system is magnificent in its malignancy where so many separate laws come together to restrict both access to justice and in many cases access to voting, education and healthcare. And the cycle is designed to self perpetuate where from the great morass a few are given slight powers and who hate those without all the more because they realise how close they in fact are - and all but ignoring their "betters" who have done an amazing job of ensuring nothing really changes.

**Montmorency** · 05-31-2019, 02:53

Originally Posted by Trump

On June 10th, the United States will impose a 5% Tariff on all goods coming into our Country from Mexico, until such time as illegal migrants coming through Mexico, and into our Country, STOP. The Tariff will gradually increase until the Illegal Immigration problem is remedied,..
....at which time the Tariffs will be removed. Details from the White House to follow.

Looks like he doesn't want to renegotiate NAFTA after all.

Key words this week according to the White House:

Natural gas = "freedom gas"
Carbon dioxide = "molecules of U.S. freedom"
John McCain = unperson

**Strike For The South** · 06-07-2019, 17:12

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rce=reddit.com

Just another in a long line of abuses levied against a group who has been otherized for the sake of profits and racism. Crazy how the cavarns never seem to wash over American cities but these people do seem to be held in squalor and contempt. Almost like its all fear mongering.

**Tuuvi** · 06-08-2019, 01:07

My boss was watching Fox News in the office today and infuriatingly they blame the whole situation on Democrats for not wanting to pass tougher immigration and asylum laws.

What anti-immigrant conservatives refuse to understand is that the migrants coming from Central America have already been through hell just to make it to the Mexican/American border, they are desperate and no amount of border security, detainment and family separation is going to dissuade people from making the journey.

The humane way to stop immigration would be to stabilize the situation in Central America through humanitarian aid but of course big-brained Trump did the opposite and cut foreign aid because Guatemala won't recreate the Berlin Wall and stop their citizens from fleeing endemic poverty and gang violence. It really gives the lie to the anti-immigrant claim that they're not racist and they just want the border to be enforced.

**Montmorency** · 06-08-2019, 02:09

Originally Posted by Tuuvi

My boss was watching Fox News in the office today and infuriatingly they blame the whole situation on Democrats for not wanting to pass tougher immigration and asylum laws.

What anti-immigrant conservatives refuse to understand is that the migrants coming from Central America have already been through hell just to make it to the Mexican/American border, they are desperate and no amount of border security, detainment and family separation is going to dissuade people from making the journey.

The humane way to stop immigration would be to stabilize the situation in Central America through humanitarian aid but of course big-brained Trump did the opposite and cut foreign aid because Guatemala won't recreate the Berlin Wall and stop their citizens from fleeing endemic poverty and gang violence. It really gives the lie to the anti-immigrant claim that they're not racist and they just want the border to be enforced.

The president is known to believe that shooting people at the border would be an effective deterrent.

Originally Posted by Trump

We don't do like other countries. Other countries stand there with machine guns ready to fire. We can't do that and I wouldn't want to do that, OK? It's a very effective way of doing it and I wouldn't want to do it. We can't do it. But - we do, if we have barriers, we have the walls like we're building now, and - and building a lot - a lot of people don't think we're building walls, we're building massive, many many many miles of walls - right now.

Even more interesting when combined with his prior sentiments that rock-throwing should be treated as a lethal threat, and that federal border agents who violate the law can expect the President's support. But I'm sure it's nothing. But we do need to do something about these "swarms" of "invaders" "infesting" our country...