Trump Thread

[Tuuvi]

My boss was watching Fox News in the office today and infuriatingly they blame the whole situation on Democrats for not wanting to pass tougher immigration and asylum laws.

What anti-immigrant conservatives refuse to understand is that the migrants coming from Central America have already been through hell just to make it to the Mexican/American border, they are desperate and no amount of border security, detainment and family separation is going to dissuade people from making the journey.

The humane way to stop immigration would be to stabilize the situation in Central America through humanitarian aid but of course big-brained Trump did the opposite and cut foreign aid because Guatemala won't recreate the Berlin Wall and stop their citizens from fleeing endemic poverty and gang violence. It really gives the lie to the anti-immigrant claim that they're not racist and they just want the border to be enforced.

[Montmorency]

My boss was watching Fox News in the office today and infuriatingly they blame the whole situation on Democrats for not wanting to pass tougher immigration and asylum laws.

What anti-immigrant conservatives refuse to understand is that the migrants coming from Central America have already been through hell just to make it to the Mexican/American border, they are desperate and no amount of border security, detainment and family separation is going to dissuade people from making the journey.

The humane way to stop immigration would be to stabilize the situation in Central America through humanitarian aid but of course big-brained Trump did the opposite and cut foreign aid because Guatemala won't recreate the Berlin Wall and stop their citizens from fleeing endemic poverty and gang violence. It really gives the lie to the anti-immigrant claim that they're not racist and they just want the border to be enforced.

The president is known to believe that shooting people at the border would be an effective deterrent.

We don't do like other countries. Other countries stand there with machine guns ready to fire. We can't do that and I wouldn't want to do that, OK? It's a very effective way of doing it and I wouldn't want to do it. We can't do it. But - we do, if we have barriers, we have the walls like we're building now, and - and building a lot - a lot of people don't think we're building walls, we're building massive, many many many miles of walls - right now.

Even more interesting when combined with his prior sentiments that rock-throwing should be treated as a lethal threat, and that federal border agents who violate the law can expect the President's support. But I'm sure it's nothing. But we do need to do something about these "swarms" of "invaders" "infesting" our country...

[Montmorency]

I can't not update this from earlier:



The Dow Jones hit 25,000 again this Tuesday.

Dow Jones has best week of the year!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Literally every half-year.

[Tuuvi]

I'm a believer in the theory that Trump probably has some form of dementia.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I'm a believer in the theory that Trump probably has some form of dementia.

They progressives say that of all of our conservative pols. It is easier to assume that someone who does not view the world as you do, while looking at the same data, is mentally off kilter in some way.

In "The Donald's" case, I think any claim of dementia is just trying to be 'nice.' In point of fact, he really IS an asshat, and of his own free will.

[Tuuvi]

They progressives say that of all of our conservative pols. It is easier to assume that someone who does not view the world as you do, while looking at the same data, is mentally off kilter in some way.

In "The Donald's" case, I think any claim of dementia is just trying to be 'nice.' In point of fact, he really IS an asshat, and of his own free will.

For me it's not his conservative politics that lead me to think he has dementia but rather the fact that he's in old age and has a tendency to ramble incoherently and post incredibly dumb tweets like the ones in Monty's post above. He just seems like someone who's easily confused and is mentally deteriorating. He's both an asshat and a sundowning old man.

For what it's worth I actually think his dementia is a godsend in some ways, I shudder to think what would happen if we had a president with Trump's views on immigrants, Muslims, the press, and the political opposition who was actually competent, or in other words was devious enough to put his policies into place without getting shot down by the courts and congress.

[Montmorency]

They progressives say that of all of our conservative pols. It is easier to assume that someone who does not view the world as you do, while looking at the same data, is mentally off kilter in some way.

In "The Donald's" case, I think any claim of dementia is just trying to be 'nice.' In point of fact, he really IS an asshat, and of his own free will.

Which conservative politicians have progressives judged to have dementia?

It's not about worldview but other behavioral and psychological characteristics. I don't have any firm conclusion about Trump, but asshats are certainly capable of experiencing cognitive decline, right? Just look at Ronald Reagan.

[Gilrandir]

What can we say of a nation if a person like that will get elected again (as likely as not)?