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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    What abour rank and file? It is from them that the initiative should come.
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    Difficult to 'grass roots' this. Proposed amendment must come from Congress on a 2/3 supermajority in both OR from a Convention called by 2/3 or the legislatures (the same percentage required to ratify). So sidestepping the party leadership is functionally undoable. Would require a 'sea change' level shift in the rank and file support that convinced the powers that be that they would be tossed out of office if they did not vote to amend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
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    Difficult to 'grass roots' this. Proposed amendment must come from Congress on a 2/3 supermajority in both OR from a Convention called by 2/3 or the legislatures (the same percentage required to ratify). So sidestepping the party leadership is functionally undoable. Would require a 'sea change' level shift in the rank and file support that convinced the powers that be that they would be tossed out of office if they did not vote to amend.
    Then you are doomed.
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    Alright, it, I'll be using "evil" to describe the troglodytic fascist goblins in this world. I can be obdurate to the news, but to directly hear such vile, destructive drivel enough to ban everyone left in the Backroom multiple times over never fails to set me on edge. If I were to reveal myself an enemy to these scum...
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    What is the history on foreign governments wanting British diplomats replaced for reasons other than misconduct? Have British governments acceded to these demands in the past?

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    What is the history on foreign governments wanting British diplomats replaced for reasons other than misconduct? Have British governments acceded to these demands in the past?
    When studying history, avoid using modern norms to assess historical practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    When studying history, avoid using modern norms to assess historical practice.
    Are you trying to be clever? I'm asking for historical precedence and normal practice, which is how common law and diplomacy works.

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    Welp, Trump just told Ilhan Omar to "go back to Africa".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    Then you are doomed.
    Indeed. The United States is rapidly devolving into a dystopian fusion of plutocracy/theocracy. By my count, we are about 3 months out from the Reichstag fire.

    It's not just Trump.

    -After World War II, the United States led the world on international agreement for the treatment of refugees. We are now leading the world in terms of destroying those norms and dehumanizing people who seek our aid.

    -We talk about "America First", but we then turn around and proudly proclaim any aid to veterans, the elderly, our youth, etc. to be a Socialist evil and must be eliminated. Meanwhile, subsidies and payouts to corporations are at an all time high. To even question such disparity leads to branding as a marxist rabble rouser (rather amusing in my slightly right of center case).

    -Our education, patheticly mediocre to begin with, is in a race to the bottom. Evangelical Christians are now allowed to introduce bible study classes (under the guise of literature studies). Science has become a perverse joke... objective, researched and peer-reviewed studies are shelved, in the interest of not wishing to offend the Luddites at the helm.

    -Probably more concerning than anything else, we have a stacked court that just enshrined Gerrymandering into law. Citizens v. United was a mortal blow, but this decision will be the coup d' grace of American Democracy.

    -Not true... the most concerning of all is how the racism and xenophobia have stripped the veneer off of my friends and family.

    We are truly living in an Orwellian nightmare over here.
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