Trump Thread

[Pannonian]

OK thanks.

*Goes back to fighting Russia in HOI4.*

In all seriousness, my figures may have been inflated but I stand by my general point that European readiness is dangerously low. Last year it was reported that almost all of Germany's Eurofighters were grounded due to them not springing for an updated part and the old part no longer being produced. Then it was reported they had rejected a new frigate after sea trials. Even the Heer is considered to be in pretty poor shape, literally, a couple of years back it was reported some German tankers were too fat to fit their tanks. Probably not literally, but in the sense that they couldn't operate them efficiently.

France also has issues, chiefly that they never ordered their second aircraft carrier to be built despite having a "two carrier navy".

If you are so concerned about our weakness and unreadiness as a stand alone country, why is it so critical that we remain part of one group while we absolutely must leave another group as a matter of sovereignty? If we cannot stand alone as Britain because we are more efficient at looking after our interests as part of a larger group, why do we have to leave the larger group?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

If you are so concerned about our weakness and unreadiness as a stand alone country, why is it so critical that we remain part of one group while we absolutely must leave another group as a matter of sovereignty? If we cannot stand alone as Britain because we are more efficient at looking after our interests as part of a larger group, why do we have to leave the larger group?

The cost/benefit analysis is different. As I indicated, this is not about "efficiency" but about a defeatist attitude.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

These last few posts could be shunted to their own thread on UK rearmament.

This impeachment effort is ghastly to watch or listen to. But at least I can get to vote against him come November.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

These last few posts could be shunted to their own thread on UK rearmament.

This impeachment effort is ghastly to watch or listen to. But at least I can get to vote against him come November.

Sorry.

I'd start that thread but it would be me writing a long speel about how we should rearm, what that should look like, how a large but not super-power level country should conduct itself on the World Stage etc.

That all the Americans would slap me on the back for having a backbone and all the Brits would decry me for taking money form the NHS/disrupting the flow of trade.

Where are we impeachment now?

Has he been formally impeached or have they put it off?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The HoR has voted two articles of impeachment. Yesterday they voted to forward those to the Senate for trial. They will be formally accepted today (Thursday 16 Jan). The Senate is currently set to begin votes on trial proceedings and particulars early next week.

No pundit is suggesting that the vote at the conclusion of the trial will remove Trump from office. All the discussion is centering on:

Who if anyone will break party ranks to vote against their "party's stance" on impeachment?

Will their be witnesses in addition to the evidence for removal proffered by the House Managers?

Will the whole thing run up to or past the Iowa Caucuses and, if so, what impact will that have on Dem candidates (since two of the top four will be sitting in the Senate trial and not out campaigning 6 days of each trial week)?

How will voters in the early states react to the information brought forward in the trial?

[Montmorency]

A Very Stable Genius. Book.

Trump, unsurprisingly for those who knew what impoundment is, violated impoundment law in his corrupt extortion of Ukraine.

Brazil's culture minister fired for espousing Nazi ideology as the future of - what's Portuguese for Volksgemeinschaft?

Monty calls CSPAN about impeachment: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1197573672313200640

[Beskar]

Monty calls CSPAN about impeachment: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1197573672313200640

Trust you.