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    I would leave Praetorian Cohort in, it was realistic for them to be on a campaign.
    Letting the SPQR have them makes sense; they were personal bodyguards and the only cohorts allowed into Rome The Urban Cohorts were factual, but unlike their RTW "uber-status", they were more like upgraded Town Watch and their primary purpose was as a paramilitary police force.

    If you really want to get rid of ahistoric units, you need to replace Egypt entirely
    The naming, yes, the faction itself, probably not. So Egypt becomes the Ptolemaic's, yes?

    I was under the impression that Naked Fanatics were realistic
    Based loosely on the Gaesatae, apparent mercs hired by the Gallic tribes. So having them as a merc spear unit available in the CisAlpine region would be at least in the ballpark
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReluctantSamurai View Post

    Based loosely on the Gaesatae, apparent mercs hired by the Gallic tribes. So having them as a merc spear unit available in the CisAlpine region would be at least in the ballpark
    I doubt they were all that effective against Rome, guys wearing nothing with either spear or sword, maybe carrying a shield, against heavily armoured troops, ends badly for the guys with nothing. I agree, probably better as mercs. Certainly not the result of a specific temple, and not what you want as frontline troops for sure.

    Note on the Urban Cohort, I believe you see them in the movie Quo Vadis, when Rome is burning. It has been a while since I saw the movie, but if I remember correctly, they were there. I guess they may have been Praetorian, but I don't think they were. A word like Praetorian would have stuck with me, this was before I was into Roman stuff.
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    I doubt they were all that effective against Rome, guys wearing nothing with either spear or sword, maybe carrying a shield, against heavily armoured troops, ends badly for the guys with nothing
    Yep:

    http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingLi...anGaesatae.htm

    Note on the Urban Cohort
    Many of the men in Urban Cohorts weren't even Roman citizens. From The Imperial Roman Army by Yann Le Bohec:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=r2...um=2&ct=result
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    Interesting. Anyway, Gaesatae is what I was thinking about instead of Teceitos.

    The Silver Shield Pikemen from the game were not the Silver Shields of Macedon. I was reading about them, granted it was Wikipedia, and the original Silver Shields were Hypaspists, though there was a similarly-named unit of Pikemen in Seleucia, and the Silver Shield Legionaries are realistic as well. I just need to borrow my brother's book on the Hellenistic armies, I guess.
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