Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [Concluded]

**Lewwyn** · 02-08-2017, 06:26

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Tinfoil on Visor's weirdness:

Visor is Mafia. Having suffered a catastrophic D1, his faction has decided that Visor will fall on the sword of the Godfather GH/Zack and clear him through the flip.

To buy more time, the plan should only come to fruition on D3 or 4. Manufactured "role action" will be invoked to explain the Godfather's survival as clear town to LYLO, at which point he will activate his Lynchproof and sail through to victory.

Doesn't sound that tinfoil-y to me.

**Choxorn** · 02-08-2017, 10:29

It's a little tinfoily, though I don't disagree that Visor looks scummy as hell right now and I could see Godfather GH/Zack pulling something crazy like that if they were the last scum. It just seems more likely that the 4th scum is in the off-wagon pile he refused to even consider, someone like Atheotes or Sooh.

**Visor** · 02-08-2017, 12:05

Clearly my opinions aren't shared by the majority.

Lewwyn

**atheotes** · 02-08-2017, 12:16

My reads as of EOD d1.

Winston - i always find the "would i do it as scum?" defense very scummy. so Winston is on the scum pile. did not like his throw shade on Chox and disappear trick. i dont like #482 and other posts focusing on Zack/Al sips voting Monty within a minute of each other.
Zack - looks like town. props for calling out Winston on the shade.
Lewwyn - town. Mindmeld.
Choxorn - town. Dp vote seems natural
Arakhor - town lean for now. sort of have a vague memory of him playing this way as town and me thinking he was scummy.
GH - started leaning town. But his call to CFD on Arakhor and more votes on me are tilting the scale. Then he calls the Dp wagon pure with his vote on it. all this combined with his late vote to tie it up seem like he was trying to save his scum bro.
Renata - town. a little stunted start but still cant help herself when she is town. :-p
Visor - Dont think he commented on the Dp/Zack discussion. Need to recheck. if he has not commented then he is a scum lean.
BSmith - liked his post. town lean for now.
Al sips - one post and out is pretty normal for Al. Dp self pressing onto him is good for Al. Need more though.

**atheotes** · 02-08-2017, 12:18

i took time to type up those reads. So you guys get to see it even if it is not up to date or even relevant.

**Arakhor** · 02-08-2017, 12:24

Originally Posted by atheotes

BSmith - liked his post. town lean for now.

Given that BSmith is a deceased townie, that's incisive intuition there.

**atheotes** · 02-08-2017, 12:37

Originally Posted by Arakhor

Given that BSmith is a deceased townie, that's incisive intuition there.

This was done during the night phase. so i will take it as a compliment.

**Snerk** · 02-08-2017, 12:49

Originally Posted by atheotes

I am caught up until EOD. Will post my reads during the day.

Originally Posted by atheotes

i took time to type up those reads. So you guys get to see it even if it is not up to date or even relevant.

OK but if your reads were already typed out, why delay them to the day? Why so confident you were going to survive the night?

Originally Posted by atheotes

This was done during the night phase. so i will take it as a compliment.

That is a good call indeed, specially considering that BSmith was acting kinda scummy.

I stand by my leans from earlier. With Winston getting a boost and Visor taking a dip.

Sooh or Atheotes. Alternatively Visor or Renata.

vote: Sooh

I want to know why my scan of Sooh failed.

**Winston Hughes** · 02-08-2017, 20:11

Originally Posted by atheotes

Winston - i always find the "would i do it as scum?" defense very scummy.

Of course it's scummy. That's why I'd never use it as scum.

**Arakhor** · 02-08-2017, 12:15

With 20 mins to go in Day 1, Zack (followed) by Al started a rush on Montmorency, which Dp immediately switched to, making Monty an almost-viable lynch candidate. Mere minutes later, Zack switched to Dp, followed by GH. Then we had Al's weird attempt to suggest I was biased against him, followed by Renata's late vote on Dp and GH's down-to-the-wire vote on Al. If scum-Zack was attempting to save Dp, switching back to him after an insufficient end-vote rush is not the right way to go about it.

As I noted with Renata much earlier, it seems odd to state that someone is scummy for doing much the same thing that you are doing currently. In this case, it's Visor proclaiming GH to be scummy for tunnelling Atheotes, whilst also considering Atheotes to be villagery for "earlier reasons".

Besides which, isn't it a bit odd to accuse someone of tunnelling in Day Two? As I understand it, tunnelling is when a player becomes convinced by their own arguments by virtue of how long or how strong they hold them (according to Mafiascum.net). I wouldn't have thought that anyone would be set in their views over the random progress of D1.