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    Default Re: Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [In Play]

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Arakhor - 60 posts so far. This will exclude the socialization stuff.

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    First post is a vote against Csargo. Clearly RVS. Tiniest of "not likely scum together" but not even worth talking about.



    This post is a response to atheotes calling Visor town. Here we start to see the hedge, though this is Arakhor's M.O. Could be interpreted as a slight disagreement with the mutual Visor/atheotes townread, not enough info on their flips yet to make a ruling about associatives. Commentary on Renata but not an opinion about her.



    More of the same, an easy interaction with Csargo plus a further questioning of Visor/atheotes. Don't think they'd do this much distancing at this early stage of the game.



    Six hour gap between the last post and this one, in which I called Arakhor out for hedging. He has a fairly reasonable-sounding defense for this. Continues to be voting for Csargo.



    This is in reference to Al Sipsclar's one early vote. Doesn't appear to take an opinion on it.



    Okay here we go. He appears to be defending Winston (who looks good now), drops the "too scummy" defense on Al (does a scumbuddy resort to this halfway through D1?), and appears to be shading Visor a bit.



    Votes Al Sipsclar and telegraphs his reasoning for doing so. Bit awkward, could be seen as him giving up on Al reappearing/potential distancing.



    This was in response to Visor asking him about Al Sips.







    These last three posts were in reponse to a case/vote from Renata as per his previous hedginess. I do think I like the tone here.





    Continuing the argument above, click on the posts themselves for context. I do like him standing his ground here.



    I questioned him about his earlier read on Monty, he responds.







    This is a bit of a back-and-forth with DP and I think this is probably the sequence of posts that looks best for Arakhor, mainly because DP is voting for him and yet Arakhor's umbrage seems natural.



    Another tangle with Renata. At this point I'm pretty confident that they're not scum together (though I don't think Renata's scum anyway).



    This is 30 minutes before EOD1 with Arakhor getting in a tangle for Monty (again, click the post for context). He's been somewhat scumreading Monty all day so this at least fits in.



    More tussling with Monty.

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    Posts a bunch of tallies as the usual EOD flurry is upon us, and then with two minutes to go, responds to this post from Al:





    Which is really, really weird to be focusing on if Arakhor's scum and two of his partners (Al Sips and Dp101) are the lead wagons at this point. Just odd and I think I'm ready to clear Arakhor.



    Final post before end of day. Again, really weird to be coming from if he's mafia considering the circumstances.

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    I don't want to read into his N1 and D2, I think I have enough here. Will revisit this down the road if I need to.


    Conclusion: He's got an interaction with Dp looks good, no weird progressions, and behavior at EOD1 that I don't think comes from mafia considering the circumstances of the lynch. Arakhor can be town for a while.
    I guess I agree with your final conclusion -- he looks pretty pure around EoD for someone who'd have to be facing w/w/w wagons if he's scum -- but I don't like your giving so much weight to that one very minor Dp interaction while practically ignoring the much more suggestive reactions to Al Sips. Even Al Sips' comment that Arakhor's just got a grudge reads to me as potential distancing from someone who's on the chopping block, as much as it does an actual attempt to get Arakhor in trouble again.

    I'd try one, maybe two other options before Arakhor but I don't even see him being out of my POE.

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    Default Re: Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [In Play]

    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    I guess I agree with your final conclusion -- he looks pretty pure around EoD for someone who'd have to be facing w/w/w wagons if he's scum -- but I don't like your giving so much weight to that one very minor Dp interaction while practically ignoring the much more suggestive reactions to Al Sips. Even Al Sips' comment that Arakhor's just got a grudge reads to me as potential distancing from someone who's on the chopping block, as much as it does an actual attempt to get Arakhor in trouble again.

    I'd try one, maybe two other options before Arakhor but I don't even see him being out of my POE.
    Didn't read it from Al's end of it. Here's the post in question for reference:

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Sipsclar View Post
    I think Arakhor wants to get back at me after our last game together, where I was scum, and the first D1 opening post, which was Arakhor's, was "Al has fooled me before but not anymore", he suspected me whole game, but eventually lost.
    I guess I can kind of see it, and there's a couple of awkward interactions on both sides of it, but on balance I still have Arakhor as leaning town.
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