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Nice try, but he gotcha. None of the subcontinent stayed in the dominion when they got rid of the Raj.Originally Posted by Montmorency
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Re: The United Kingdom; The European Union; NATO: which is the primary sense of ident
Londoner
British
European
Western (includes liberal democracies aligned with the west, especially where they're culturally not too alien, eg. Japan, Korea, etc.)
Beyond that, there are legal obligations, but no cultural identification.
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British
English
Anglosphere
Western
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It's "Dominions" or "Commonwealth Realms", at one time the UK might have claimed the position of Primus inter Pares but no longer - all are equal under HM Queen.
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Re: The United Kingdom; The European Union; NATO: which is the primary sense of ident
Terra
Couldn't resist.
On a serious note, it is probably most accurate portrayal. Whilst I am active in my local community, this is only because of transport and logistics for me personally. There is simply too much ground for me to cover. In this sense, I feel kinship with like-minded individuals who are compassionate and want to make the world generally better.
The mindset of nation, of sphere is very limiting. Global issues concern me, because it affects the planet. Whilst some people don't care about that the Artic is disappearing before our eyes, either outright denying it, or worse, seeing it as a potentially great thing for untapped fossil fuel resources. There is that personal limitation of there is nothing I can realistically do about a situation thousands of miles away directly, and I rely on the local inhabitants to do the good thing instead.
The people I get along with, let's say Husar (Germany) & Lemur (America). I feel a lot more kinship with them than those annoying neighbours at the back of my house who love for inexpiable reasons to shine green lasers into my room at night. So my kinship is certainly not tied to a certain geography.
Similar to the fact I am going to be moving outside the UK, I already started to contact local services in the new area for networking and getting involved in local projects there. I don't have this strange desire to excessively triumph my hometown (other than sarcastically). Sure, there are some people locally like family I will miss, but you don't need to see them super-regularly and I can travel to say hello.
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Re: The United Kingdom; The European Union; NATO: which is the primary sense of ident
Oh good, casual brain drain in a time of need.
This is why neglecting and demonising the national identity was the greatest mistake of the last 3 decades.
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Yeah, well, money has no master, it is the master.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/thi...-us-2017-02-27
Who do you think wanted the selective globalization we got?
As for my identity, that's a tough one. First and foremost I'm a member of the social and intellectual world-wide elite....
*waits for people to get triggered*
Okay, everyone who is still here, it is a mixture of German and European, but also part North-Rhine-Westphalian and part world.
Philosophically, I'm a human and so are you. To some extent my identity changes based on the topic and my perception of who I am talking to, you may call me identity-fluid.
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Jews can be my "cousins", because I am a Jew, Arabs can be my cousins because they're Semites, Russians can be my cousins because of my ancestry in the Soviet empire, or indeed any Soviet subject group, some more so than others...Philosophically, I'm a human and so are you. To some extent my identity changes based on the topic and my perception of who I am talking to, you may call me identity-fluid.
Italian-Americans can be my cousins for their role in the development of New York City in the past, Chinese-Americans can be my cousins for their role in the development of New York today, Wisconsinites/Michiganians/Minnesotans can be my cousins because they were in large part settled by New Yorkers back in the day, the "West New England", Californians can be my cousins because they're coastal and New York played a large role in their settling over the years, even up to today, and there are others I probably can't think of at the moment.
Or I can just be a New Yorker. Or I can just be an American. I'm fairly spoiled for identity. The only identity I could want to develop is a personal and interpersonal one of my own.
But I can't be everyone's cousin in the same instance.
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