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    After attacks in Germany, France and Belgium it was only a question of time for the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    After attacks in Germany, France and Belgium it was only a question of time for the UK.
    After an attack in the UK, it was only question of time for the UK. We're producing them ourselves. The perpetrator, from what's been released, was another homegrown.

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    After an attack in the UK, it was only question of time for the UK. We're producing them ourselves. The perpetrator, from what's been released, was another homegrown.
    Instead of letting them go off to their perceived homeland where with any luck they'll get killed we prevent them leaving which increases the risk of attacks here.

    Immigration is fine when coupled with integration. But there does need to be this expectation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Instead of letting them go off to their perceived homeland where with any luck they'll get killed we prevent them leaving which increases the risk of attacks here.

    Immigration is fine when coupled with integration. But there does need to be this expectation.

    I still think we should formally recognise IS and strip UK citizenship from those who go there.

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    I still think we should formally recognise IS and strip UK citizenship from those who go there.
    In an ideal world, I agree. Having SIS monitor their role in ISIS is probably sufficient.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    Khalid Masood was known to police but not subject of surveillance

    Masood, 52, was born in Kent and detectives believe he was most recently living in the West Midlands. Masood was also known by a number of aliases, police said in a statement.

    Scotland Yard said Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack.

    However, he was known to police and had a range of previous convictions for assaults, including GBH, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences.

    His first conviction was in November 1983 for criminal damage and his last conviction was in December 2003 for possession of a knife.

    He had not been convicted for any terrorism offences.

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