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    Default Re: Do you want Germany to raise military expenses?

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    With such reasoned arguments, who can compete?

    Perhaps there is something between an ultra-controlled market and a developing country?

    Bulgaria? Greece? Rural Northumberland? Who decides? The Holy Invisible Hand of the Markets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristuskhan View Post
    Bulgaria? Greece? Rural Northumberland? Who decides? The Holy Invisible Hand of the Markets?
    I am gonna take a wild guess and suggest that Rory was referring to The USA, Western Europe, Japan, Mexico....regulated capitalism with varying degrees of government control over portions of the economy related to "social welfare" concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    I am gonna take a wild guess and suggest that Rory was referring to The USA, Western Europe, Japan, Mexico....regulated capitalism with varying degrees of government control over portions of the economy related to "social welfare" concerns.
    Mexico? Is it the level of social welfare we should refer to? Nice. There must be something between hardline capitalism ans state rule on economy, indeed... This one looks to be badly leaning toward the first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristuskhan View Post
    Mexico? Is it the level of social welfare we should refer to? Nice. There must be something between hardline capitalism ans state rule on economy, indeed... This one looks to be badly leaning toward the first.
    Not asserting that Mexico is an ideal in any way. Just pointing up that there is more than one recipe between the two points, Mexico's differing significantly from the USA etc.
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    At some point the EU will end up one of two things. A Germany with a Greek yoke or a German boot crushing a Greek. The other option being to dissolve borders and massively strengthen it. Which won't work, but some people think it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    or a German boot crushing a Greek.
    Germany did try. It didn't end very well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Germany did try. It didn't end very well...
    "well" depends only on the timeline one is using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Germany did try. It didn't end very well...
    True enough for the 1940s. Though to be fair, Germany had Zero interest in Greece until it felt compelled to pull the Italian's castagne out of the fire.
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