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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
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    You really should drop the 350 millions in saving thing. It was then, leading up to the referendum, somewhere between a "lie" and a "damned lie." Leavers mostly figured it was hyperbole even then and now it is water under a series of bridges for two years. You will have to cope with the fact that none of the Leavers will bother to ask, and that none of the Leaver leadership is EVER going to say "I was lying to try to influence the vote, knowing full well it was a crock of excrement. I hereby resign and leave public life." like you clearly so want them to do.

    Your lot is winning anyway, just keep up the skeer and the next ref will clear it.
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    Edit: I'm less confident than you are that the truth will win over lies, and I'm resigned to leaving the EU on excruciating terms to satisfy the Leave leadership's games. The least I can do, given the uselessness of our official opposition, is to remind Leavers that this was what they chose.
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    Bills of this complexity normally take months to work through, with several stages of debates and votes. The government has given Parliament less than 2 days to read through the Bill before voting. At least one Tory MP has said that what they've seen of it and the rushed process makes them highly nervous. The Bill makes for bad law, the government knows it, and it wants it passed before everyone realises it is bad law.

    The DUP have already noted that Johnson has sold them out by normalising NI's economy with RoI's rather than the UK's. That's one bit. Another is the right to re-set employment and other rights in the future, which betrays the promises the government has made to the Labour rebels. More to come as people read through the Bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Bills of this complexity normally take months to work through, with several stages of debates and votes. The government has given Parliament less than 2 days to read through the Bill before voting. At least one Tory MP has said that what they've seen of it and the rushed process makes them highly nervous. The Bill makes for bad law, the government knows it, and it wants it passed before everyone realises it is bad law.

    The DUP have already noted that Johnson has sold them out by normalising NI's economy with RoI's rather than the UK's. That's one bit. Another is the right to re-set employment and other rights in the future, which betrays the promises the government has made to the Labour rebels. More to come as people read through the Bill.
    Should the EU then automatically give more time for the democratic process?

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    Lol, delayed again
    In all these papers we see a love of honest work, an aversion to shams, a caution in the enunciation of conclusions, a distrust of rash generalizations and speculations based on uncertain premises. He was never anxious to add one more guess on doubtful matters in the hope of hitting the truth, or what might pass as such for a time, but was always ready to take infinite pains in the most careful testing of every theory. With these qualities was united a modesty which forbade the pushing of his own claims and desired no reputation except the unsought tribute of competent judges.

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    Two steps Forward, one step back.

    Let's have some music for this interlude, how about Two Steps From Hell "Impossible":



    Now - to the point. Boris Johnson has already got further with this than May ever could have and, by my calculation he did it with an absolute majority in the House. Then the Bill got stuck in Limbo.

    Boris is till hewing to his October 31st Deadline out of obstinacy, he's starting to look a bit deluded, to be honest.
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    So 31st of October is out of the picture.
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    Assuming the EU dont tell us to sod off, pretty much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    he's starting to look a bit deluded, to be honest.
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    Lol, delayed again
    In all these papers we see a love of honest work, an aversion to shams, a caution in the enunciation of conclusions, a distrust of rash generalizations and speculations based on uncertain premises. He was never anxious to add one more guess on doubtful matters in the hope of hitting the truth, or what might pass as such for a time, but was always ready to take infinite pains in the most careful testing of every theory. With these qualities was united a modesty which forbade the pushing of his own claims and desired no reputation except the unsought tribute of competent judges.

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