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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    You know that we agree on the dangers of mosqees and their influence, terribly underestimamated for goodness's sake. What's so odd in my case is that I have no Turkish friends or even aquantances, Turks are really friendly but very inward in general, I always get the impression that they are scared of something, what's happening in Turkey right now must be it. We are crazy that we allow this here but lefties wiil always support these things and will always feel rightious doing it. I am not blind I can see what's wrong, but that's considered to be a disability nowadays
    You know what keeps world from freaking out is people and the sides they form that contribute into the balance.

    I do not advocate blind-eye pink-fluffy-world leftism but for the right wing extremism not to turn mainstream, they are the check & balance of a social lynch mob from ever happening.

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    You know what keeps world from freaking out is people and the sides they form that contribute into the balance.

    I do not advocate blind-eye pink-fluffy-world leftism but for the right wing extremism not to turn mainstream, they are the check & balance of a social lynch mob from ever happening.
    In Israel, it is the residual socialism and liberalism that keep it from going full-blown middle east. Liberals aren't necessarily bleeding hearters, just as conservatives aren't necessarily selfish me-onlys.

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    In Israel, it is the residual socialism and liberalism that keep it from going full-blown middle east. Liberals aren't necessarily bleeding hearters, just as conservatives aren't necessarily selfish me-onlys.
    I can't imagine a worse Israel so, pray those ideals are still lurking there.

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    You know what keeps world from freaking out is people and the sides they form that contribute into the balance.

    I do not advocate blind-eye pink-fluffy-world leftism but for the right wing extremism not to turn mainstream, they are the check & balance of a social lynch mob from ever happening.
    The extreme right that could be violent is so marginal that they aren't even worthly of any consideration whatsoever, normal people scare me more, we are all looking at something that moves in slow-motion, there is something under the surface. It won't hurt anything directly and very soon, it will hurt differently, it will hurt by alienating us all

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    The extreme right that could be violent is so marginal that they aren't even worthly of any consideration whatsoever, normal people scare me more, we are all looking at something that moves in slow-motion, there is something under the surface. It won't hurt anything directly and very soon, it will hurt differently, it will hurt by alienating us all
    Do not take right wing extremism so lightly, it is in charge of USA - Trump is a RTE in his early years. You wouldn't notice how quickly they could address masses should the right circumstances be sewn together.

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    All I got from this is you're in Europe and not Texas

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    All I got from this is you're in Europe and not Texas

    Sad.
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    The extreme right that could be violent is so marginal that they aren't even worthly of any consideration whatsoever
    Out of the three recent terrorist attacks in London, 2 were done by Muslims, 1 was done by extreme-right. So "Not worthy of consideration" would be incorrect, especially given the attention you place upon the Muslim population by comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Out of the three recent terrorist attacks in London, 2 were done by Muslims, 1 was done by extreme-right. So "Not worthy of consideration" would be incorrect, especially given the attention you place upon the Muslim population by comparison.
    I am not nearly as fixated as you make it sound. It are the people who relativate horrible tnings that frighten me. I myself scare me because I agree with a lot that Breivik psycho said about cultural marxism. That terrorism and violence is almost exclusive to muslims and leftists is simply a fact
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    That terrorism and violence is almost exclusive to muslims and leftists is simply a fact
    Now that is simply silly Fragony. I know that you know better than that.

    Yes, there are such things as Left-wing terrorism but you cite examples like Brevik, a high-profile right-wing case, when Left-wing terrorism is more like the environmentalists camped outside of the road down my street protesting against fracking and climbing upon vehicles and battling local farmers who are spraying sewage at them to get them off their land. Different kettle of fish.

    So your "simply a fact" is wrong.
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    Now that is simply silly Fragony. I know that you know better than that.

    Yes, there are such things as Left-wing terrorism but you cite examples like Brevik, a high-profile right-wing case, when Left-wing terrorism is more like the environmentalists camped outside of the road down my street protesting against fracking and climbing upon vehicles and battling local farmers who are spraying sewage at them to get them off their land. Different kettle of fish.

    So your "simply a fact" is wrong.
    Western liberals and socialists, where they consort with terrorism, tend to sympathise with and excuse terrorists rather than indulge in the pastime themselves. And that, they do plenty of.

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    Now that is simply silly Fragony. I know that you know better than that.

    Yes, there are such things as Left-wing terrorism but you cite examples like Brevik, a high-profile right-wing case, when Left-wing terrorism is more like the environmentalists camped outside of the road down my street protesting against fracking and climbing upon vehicles and battling local farmers who are spraying sewage at them to get them off their land. Different kettle of fish.

    So your "simply a fact" is wrong.
    Leftist terrorism doesn't really exist, not the RAF type at least. But violence and intimidation absolutily does, tnese 'anitifacists' are no angels and come with great numbers, just recently in Hamburg more than a hundred police-officers were injured, some will never be ok again, beaten with iron staves, even set on fire.

    That's the violence part. Actual terrorism not a muslim thing mostly, common, just because most muslims are nice people doesn't mean that terrorism is almost exclusive to muslims. You aren't doing anyone a favour when denying that, especially the normal ones who only care about what's for dinner. That's the other problem with leftists, they confuse what is with how they want things to be. I also want things to be like that, but things aren't
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    *Attaches chain, drags thread back on topic.*

    If you want to debate the virtues of Socialist Apologists start your own threads.

    Turkey, last I heard they were seizing Chalcedeen Churches to turn into Mosques.

    I think we can downgrade Turkey from "slippery slope" to "Despotic Fascist State."

    It's 26/07/2017 and the President of Turkey might just be a bigger Fascist than Putin.
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