Re: Turkish Democracy - on the brink
To be honest, from I know of Ataturk's constitutional system, it was inherently reliant on a military ready to perform coups ('for the people') to restore the government to its original state. This is not the most well thought out structure for several reasons...
Re: Turkish Democracy - on the brink
One can only do what one can with what one has. The region has a strong tendency towards religious nutterism. The most "western" state in the region, Israel, is only so because of continued efforts by liberals and socialists. And even they have to pander to the religious nutters to some extent.Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
Re: Turkish Democracy - on the brink
If they keep killing each other over there, hopefully they'll forget about is over here.
Most states in the Middle East have boundaries that make little sense from our "Western" standpoint of self determination (or most of the time, our populace is to apathetic to try to gain freedom - barring Catalonia) and are glued together by violence and the threat of more violence.
In such environments people seem to tend to turn to strong (generally) men to Sort Things Out.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
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Re: Turkish Democracy - on the brink
... and Scotland.
Re: Turkish Democracy - on the brink
Scotland got a vote. They voted no. Seems they'd like to stay in and continue to whine rather than be independent and deal with the world.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
Re: Turkish Democracy - on the brink
Plus Scotland hasnt waged a terror campaign in the last 50 years.
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Re: Turkish Democracy - on the brink
Wales has, though.
"If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."
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Re: Turkish Democracy - on the brink
Have Catalonian exiters had? You mix them up with the Basques.
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