Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
So, as you just stated it there is an interrelated structure, where function is mutually dependent and reactive. Fin.
I didn't say structure. I said "SUNDRY organs belonging to OTHER systems".

Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
I'm wondering why you think nerves are connected but the organs involved in the immune system are not? One connection of those organs are the T-cells that kill antigenes, another would be the blood that is used to distribute information and other things the immune system needs.
Cells can't serve an example of connection. Otherwise one might claim that rectum and skin being eventually connected by cells make up a separate system of the organism.
Blood is not and organ, and moreover it doesn't belong to immune "system". Another argument why it is not a self-contained system.

Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
Nerves are connected in a similar way because two nerves do not communicate directly, they send chemicals to one another. Your picture doesn't show anything relevant, it's about as usless to show "connection" as the example of left and right leg being connected via bones and muscles.
All nerves stem from brain and/or spinal chord.

Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
In the same way all our organs are connected via bones and muscles.
Heart and stomach as well?

Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
Then the skin is what keeps the organs connected, or the blood, or the nerve system, the bones, the muslces, what are you still arguing about?
Skin is an outside shell, inside organs are not connected by skin. On blood see above. Generally, one may find a lot of connections between different organs, but all of them form chains uniting them in self-contained systems with their own primary functions. This is why heart is a part of one sytem and lungs - of another.

Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
And there is nothing wrong with it.
Which doesn't cancel the fact that it is a misname.

Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
The problem here is that a system is a linguistic construct defined by man, not a natural ocurrence to be observed.
So solar system is not a natural occurence? System is a word used to signify phenomena of the environment. It fits some of them, and it doesn't fit others.

Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
So you either have to show how the immune system doesn't fit our definition of a system or state how your definition of a system differs, in which case it's a matter of taste and your attempt to force your definition through against a long-established consensus is just weird. Especially since your definition of a "connection" as required between the parts of a system appears incredibly arbirtrary to me.
Reaching a consensus doesn't mean being terminologically correct. I can give an example of Paleoasiatic languages which are conventionally slumped together into one "family" despite the fact they are not genetically related. Or there is conventionally recognized linguistic category of noun gender, but in fact it is not a category (for nouns). Well, I don't think you would want me to elaborate, but if you do, give me a sign.

Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
So you were really jumping head first into a joke to throw "science" around without giving any second thought to what I was referring to or how to actually approach the subject scientifically, which would be to define what you mean with the words you use instead of wildly pitting definitions against one another as though either of them were a god-given constant.
If all definitions are arbitrary, what's the use of trying to persuade me mine take on the issue is wrong? I gave all the arguments I was asked and I don't see why they are worse then yours. If mine don't convince you there is no need to call my approach unscientific, wild or arbitrary.

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I blame Gilrandir.
When in the thread dealing with Maidan events people started comparing tanks against each other no blames were hurled around.