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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    http://www.edwest.co.uk/telegraph-bl...conservatives/
    not quite the exact links, but close enough to expand on the premise.
    Quoting from article which refers to the book:
    The biggest errors in the whole study came when liberals answered the Care and Fairness questions while pretending to be conservatives. When faced with questions such as ‘One of the worst things a person could do is hurt a defenceless animal’ or ‘Justice is the most important requirement for a society,’ liberals assumed that conservatives would disagree.
    The problem is the persons perspective of themselves and their actual actions. There is a cognitive disconnection between these in the cases of Conservatives. As for the question about defenceless animals, just look at how the Tories are so keen on scrapping the ban on Fox Hunting. They are frothing at the mouth to get rid of that, despite the majority of the country firmly wanting it in place. In America, Conservatives are the ones who travel across their countries and others to shoot wild animals, especially endangered creatures. With a question such as "Do you think hurting defenceless creatures is wrong?", they will obviously not disagree with it in answering, but it doesn't stop the fact in practice they actually do it.

    It is like answering a question: "Do you enjoy kicking homeless people when they are down?" I would highly suspect a Conservative will not be answering "Actually, I do enjoy that, I strongly agree!", they will most likely put down 'strongly disagree'. At the same time, that same Conservative will vote for the candidate who will tackle vagrants and homelessness by installing anti-homelessness spikes. mandating people have to have an address for a bank account, mandating they need an address for benefits, mandating they need passports to rent any accommodation to prove they are not illegal immigrants, harsher punishments for petty crimes as they steal a loaf of bread from corner shop to feed themselves, and provide no funding for any socioeconomic programs to help people get off the streets and back within society.

    It is like the example of the person who was moaning about eastern europeans flooding the UK and driving down wages, and the threat of Turkey doing similar if they joined the EU. He moans about this despite the fact he actually owns and runs a business who employs staff at minimum wage on zero hour contracts! He even moans about the fact minimum wage goes up as it is costing his business profit to pay for increases in salaries. How can someone who employs people on the bare minimum also complain about immigration driving down wages? There has to be a clear cognitive disconnect going on. You would think someone expressing values about immigration driving down wages would employ staff on a living wage with secure contracts... but nope. Voting Conservative because it suits his pocket better. Also an argent Brexit supporter, he is rubbing his hands at scrapping the working time directive. In some ways, would be great if the Europeans returned home, he would probably go out of business because there will be no one working for him or want to work for him, in exchange for a terrible contract and pay. Will be forced to actually offer good job opportunities to people.

    Could argue it is leading question. If the question was "Do you support peoples right to hunt wild animals?" Conservatives would be strongly agreeing with this, rather than phrasing it as them preying on innocent defenceless animals. Brings us back to Yes. Prime Minister.

    Last edited by Beskar; 04-29-2017 at 19:12.
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