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    So you're attacking Labour for being too left wing and when counter points are raised you attack Labour for being too right wing?
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    Apparently this is being shared around. A spreadsheet of "Progressive Alliance" (Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, Greens, etc) recommending who to vote for if you want the Tories out. So it highlights who is in 2nd place to the Conservatives, recommending to vote in that direction in their held seats, and what seats are currently held by what party.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...aI1bU8/pubhtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmetiacos View Post
    So you're attacking Labour for being too left wing and when counter points are raised you attack Labour for being too right wing?
    5-6 more elections under those conditions and you lot can generate your own Donald Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmetiacos View Post
    So you're attacking Labour for being too left wing and when counter points are raised you attack Labour for being too right wing?
    It might startle you to learn that the terms "left wing" and "right wing" are rather broad brush strokes.

    Merely that the leaders are equally wealthy elitists from the same place means it is hard to blame the Conservatives alone for this.

    I don't think anyone would deny when last in power Labour spent vast sums of money during the boom years and saved little / none for the bad years since they had "cured" it.

    Perhaps it is better to say that one side is full of elitist cronies from a wealthy background who further the business interests of their friends, as are the other lot but also like to create a much larger national debt since there is the belief they will somehow get a return on the spending.

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    I am struck by how "Yuppie" Beskar's analogy is, a new patio, multi-vitamins, tutors, sports clubs.

    All things most people either can't afford or wouldn't waste money on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    I am struck by how "Yuppie" Beskar's analogy is, a new patio, multi-vitamins, tutors, sports clubs.

    All things most people either can't afford or wouldn't waste money on.
    It was a bad analogy example, I had to work within my limits. Clearly Tutor is "Education", "Pills" being NHS, Patio being Infrastructure. etc.

    As for something punny.
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    Tories plan VAT tax bombshell after election - hitting struggling families with financial blow
    Chancellor Philip Hammond signalled he would drop the party’s 2015 manifesto pledge not to raise VAT, income tax or national insurance contributions.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politic...hell-10272034#



    Looks like it isn't just the 'evil Lefties' planning on raising taxes. Though at least they said about raising it on the rich, and not the poor.
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    Keynesian economics are back in favour, even with the right :

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...s-is-hot-again
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    Some form of Keynesian economics were part of all centralized states since time immeroial. In the mid 70s some crazy New York bankers came up with deregulation and eventually got a hold of Reagan and now we have Sam Brownback

    this is Americas fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Tories plan VAT tax bombshell after election - hitting struggling families with financial blow
    Chancellor Philip Hammond signalled he would drop the party’s 2015 manifesto pledge not to raise VAT, income tax or national insurance contributions.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politic...hell-10272034#



    Looks like it isn't just the 'evil Lefties' planning on raising taxes. Though at least they said about raising it on the rich, and not the poor.
    Excuse me, it is generally an error of the Left to assign moral bankruptcy to their political opponents, not the Right. That is why Communists operate Gulags.

    Barely anyone every says "evil Lefties".

    Anyway, could you have found a less impartial article?

    Refusing to raise taxes at all is a foolish commitment, one that bit Hammond on the arse earlier this year when he tried to institute a very modest increase the NI Contributions for the self-employed (who would still have paid less than other workers) to help fund the NHS.

    In other news - Jeremy Corbyn shows how out of touch he is with having a normal job:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39682388

    General election 2017: Labour plans four new bank holidays

    "These holidays will be a chance for workers to spend time with their families, in their communities and with their friends"

    Jezza - nobody gets bank holidays off any more, unless they work in the public sector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    It might startle you to learn that the terms "left wing" and "right wing" are rather broad brush strokes.

    Merely that the leaders are equally wealthy elitists from the same place means it is hard to blame the Conservatives alone for this.

    I don't think anyone would deny when last in power Labour spent vast sums of money during the boom years and saved little / none for the bad years since they had "cured" it.
    Corbyn is nothing like as wealthy as the Blairs, that's ridiculous - they are filthy rich with a property portfoilo estimated at between 20 and 30 million pounds. The idea that Labour's overspending caused the international banking crisis was Cameron's party line, but it's crap: the problem was that Labour ran up a debt trying to prevent the recession which Tory cuts produced anyway so we got the worst of both worlds: had the Tories been in power in 2007 to do nothing, or had Labour stayed after 2010 and avoided the recession, things wouldn't have gone down the tubes so quickly.
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