So you're attacking Labour for being too left wing and when counter points are raised you attack Labour for being too right wing?
So you're attacking Labour for being too left wing and when counter points are raised you attack Labour for being too right wing?
'you owe it to that famous chick general whose name starts with a B'
OILAM TREBOPALA INDI PORCOM LAEBO INDI INTAM PECINAM ELMETIACUI
Apparently this is being shared around. A spreadsheet of "Progressive Alliance" (Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, Greens, etc) recommending who to vote for if you want the Tories out. So it highlights who is in 2nd place to the Conservatives, recommending to vote in that direction in their held seats, and what seats are currently held by what party.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...aI1bU8/pubhtml
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
It might startle you to learn that the terms "left wing" and "right wing" are rather broad brush strokes.
Merely that the leaders are equally wealthy elitists from the same place means it is hard to blame the Conservatives alone for this.
I don't think anyone would deny when last in power Labour spent vast sums of money during the boom years and saved little / none for the bad years since they had "cured" it.
Perhaps it is better to say that one side is full of elitist cronies from a wealthy background who further the business interests of their friends, as are the other lot but also like to create a much larger national debt since there is the belief they will somehow get a return on the spending.
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An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
I am struck by how "Yuppie" Beskar's analogy is, a new patio, multi-vitamins, tutors, sports clubs.
All things most people either can't afford or wouldn't waste money on.
"If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."
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Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Tories plan VAT tax bombshell after election - hitting struggling families with financial blow
Chancellor Philip Hammond signalled he would drop the party’s 2015 manifesto pledge not to raise VAT, income tax or national insurance contributions.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politic...hell-10272034#
Looks like it isn't just the 'evil Lefties' planning on raising taxes. Though at least they said about raising it on the rich, and not the poor.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Keynesian economics are back in favour, even with the right :
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...s-is-hot-again
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
Some form of Keynesian economics were part of all centralized states since time immeroial. In the mid 70s some crazy New York bankers came up with deregulation and eventually got a hold of Reagan and now we have Sam Brownback
this is Americas fault.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Excuse me, it is generally an error of the Left to assign moral bankruptcy to their political opponents, not the Right. That is why Communists operate Gulags.
Barely anyone every says "evil Lefties".
Anyway, could you have found a less impartial article?
Refusing to raise taxes at all is a foolish commitment, one that bit Hammond on the arse earlier this year when he tried to institute a very modest increase the NI Contributions for the self-employed (who would still have paid less than other workers) to help fund the NHS.
In other news - Jeremy Corbyn shows how out of touch he is with having a normal job:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39682388
General election 2017: Labour plans four new bank holidays
"These holidays will be a chance for workers to spend time with their families, in their communities and with their friends"
Jezza - nobody gets bank holidays off any more, unless they work in the public sector.
"If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."
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Corbyn is nothing like as wealthy as the Blairs, that's ridiculous - they are filthy rich with a property portfoilo estimated at between 20 and 30 million pounds. The idea that Labour's overspending caused the international banking crisis was Cameron's party line, but it's crap: the problem was that Labour ran up a debt trying to prevent the recession which Tory cuts produced anyway so we got the worst of both worlds: had the Tories been in power in 2007 to do nothing, or had Labour stayed after 2010 and avoided the recession, things wouldn't have gone down the tubes so quickly.
'you owe it to that famous chick general whose name starts with a B'
OILAM TREBOPALA INDI PORCOM LAEBO INDI INTAM PECINAM ELMETIACUI
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