Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
So the next step is to bar all Muslims? That would be a return to 19th-century ideals.

Pannonian, why is criticism so important to you? Any policy can be criticized by anyone - that doesn't leave you to crawl into a cave and hope all the meanies leave you alone, does it? You take criticism into account where possible and adopt reasonable courses of action, knowing you can't and shouldn't please everyone. "Damned if you do and damned if you don't" is your favorite premise, yet it is wholly untrue and seems borne out of petulant parochialism. Criticism exists. Get over it.

Do the right thing or you aren't fit to even stand to hear criticism.
Pannonian's point is that if we intervene we're evil Imperialists, (Libya) and if we don't intervene we don't care (Syria) and its often the SAME PEOPLE making both arguments.

It is, therefore not possible to "take criticism into account where possible and adopt reasonable courses of action."

There is a well documented trend of second generation immigrants being more extreme and less integrated into British culture than their parents. This manifests not only in Terrorism but in tacit support for Suicide bombing, rejection of liberal Western ideals (such as women not having to cover up) and generally being bad citizens.

The fact is, in the UK only Muslims commit suicide bombings and irrc all the bombers have been born here.

So, if we let in no more Muslim immigrants or refugees they will not go on to have children who become suicide bombers and murder other people's children.

It's not a very compassionate response but it is a completely logical one.