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    Default Re: UK General Election 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    I've repeated it several times, so have you not read it, or have you dismissed it? Note what his sister said his motives were.
    Beyond merely existing in Britain.

    You've kept hammering the argument that we're somehow to blame. Could you suggest what we could have done instead that might have made him not attack us?
    I haven't discussed blame. I specifically told you at the outset that I'm not discussing blame. You have this great difficulty changing the record from whatever track you are on. I'm trying to explain why the way you are thinking is an unproductive approach and describing what else there is to think, but you keep snapping back to your original line and reading everything relative to that perspective.

    And I haven't been discussing ways to convince specific people not to subscribe to jihadi ideologies, because that's a futile exercise. You work with the population as a whole, first to do the actual appropriate governance that people living in a state need generally, second those specific programs aimed to improve security and encourage integration. If you simply have a visceral hatred of Muslims or are willing to apply collective punishment for even a single transgression, then our values are just too different and all I can hope for is to stand in your way.
    Vitiate Man.

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    The glib replies, the same defeats


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