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    Default Re: The Family is The cornerstone of the nation state.

    Strong families mean less criminality in the youth, less burden on the state in welfare, greater individual performance and contribution to the state by the offspring.

    The degeneration of the african american population can IMO be rather convinceingly attributed to a trend of a lack of father figures in the average family unit.
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    Default Re: The Family is The cornerstone of the nation state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Strong families mean less criminality in the youth,
    Wrong: Good neighborhood means less criminality in the youth.
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    Access to good neighbourhood requires income of two parents or external funding. The presence of a father encourages discipline more than single mothers and intact families with one dedicated wage earner lets other parent spend more time with children. These reduce criminality, even in bad neighbourhoods.
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    Default Re: The Family is The cornerstone of the nation state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Access to good neighbourhood requires income of two parents or external funding.
    Decent income of both parents =/= strong family.
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    The required existance and presence of two parents = strong family.
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    Default Re: The Family is The cornerstone of the nation state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    The required existance and presence of two parents = strong family.
    The couple may be in terrible relations with each other yet for a million of reasons they stay married. So the first part of your equation doesn't presuppose the second one.
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    Default Re: The Family is The cornerstone of the nation state.

    And what if the good neighbourhood hides a paedophils ring or a serial child killer?

    Difficult to debate when it hasnt been defined what exactly a strong family is. We're talking generalities and I say the family unit is more beneficial than the neighbourhood in such terms.
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    Default Re: The Family is The cornerstone of the nation state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Access to good neighbourhood requires income of two parents or external funding. The presence of a father encourages discipline more than single mothers and intact families with one dedicated wage earner lets other parent spend more time with children. These reduce criminality, even in bad neighbourhoods.
    The proof of this is, of course, "out there" if one looks for it. Am I correct?
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    Default Re: The Family is The cornerstone of the nation state.

    Your going to contest the negative effects of single parenthood?
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