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    Being no specialist in either of these spheres, I still greatly doubt your claim. For example, there are some areas of biology which are completely founded on hypotheses and can't be empirically tested, like paleobiology (the dinosaurs' ways of life, hide color, voice etc.). Moreover, there are many questions as to the functions of some organs of the living organisms. I'm sure chemistry abounds in such issues as well. So I suspect you have a special grudge against physics. Poor test results in grade 9?



    Since we are talking of Tolkien's world as a reflection of universal Christian tenets and myths, the breeds of Catholicism involved really don't matter.
    "The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like 'religion', to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism."

    No. 142: letter to his friend Robert Murray, S.J. (December 1953)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    "The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like 'religion', to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism."

    No. 142: letter to his friend Robert Murray, S.J. (December 1953)
    I don't see how being Catholic cancels being Christian. And if we zoom out of LoTR and look at the whole legendarium we see that it establishes its own universe whose origin is definitely at variance with the Christian tradition starting from its creation out of Music. The religious background of the legendarium is richer than just Catholicism or even Christianity with the admixture of Scandinavian and even Greek mythology.
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    The article exists for a reason yes, I did not write it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    I don't see how being Catholic cancels being Christian. And if we zoom out of LoTR and look at the whole legendarium we see that it establishes its own universe whose origin is definitely at variance with the Christian tradition starting from its creation out of Music. The religious background of the legendarium is richer than just Catholicism or even Christianity with the admixture of Scandinavian and even Greek mythology.
    I'm just quoting Tolkien on his own creation. I'm guessing you're a fan of "The Death of the Author".

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    I'm just quoting Tolkien on his own creation. I'm guessing you're a fan of "The Death of the Author".
    If you mean Barth's conception -I heard about it but never dug deep.
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    Nice to hear from you, especially as you are no longer burdened with the red.
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