Pokemon Nuzlocke FireRed Mafia [Concluded]

**Manasi** · 05-28-2017, 18:42

I guess technically English wasn't my first language so I could use that as an excuse.

**Manasi** · 05-28-2017, 18:48

**Zack** · 05-28-2017, 18:52

The chaos thing is definitely something GH does as town. Plus I'm not a wolf, so why even put himself out there like that when it's meaningless? It makes no sense how some people are calling for GH's head based on voting Raith while not suspecting me. You not liking the way he did it does not make it wolfy. Either he was saving a wolf or it's not alignment-indicative.

And I mean, Monty's attack on GH for pushing khaan d1 is ludicrous. One of the points of his accusation is that GH didn't look into khaan's past games, when he literally did that and listed out how khaan acted in past games... Not to mention lynching someone who's not a wolf d1 isn't something that's damning in the first place.

**Manasi** · 05-28-2017, 18:55

Originally Posted by Zack

The chaos thing is definitely something GH does as town. Plus I'm not a wolf, so why even put himself out there like that when it's meaningless? It makes no sense how some people are calling for GH's head based on voting Raith while not suspecting me. You not liking the way he did it does not make it wolfy. Either he was saving a wolf or it's not alignment-indicative.

And I mean, Monty's attack on GH for pushing khaan d1 is ludicrous. One of the points of his accusation is that GH didn't look into khaan's past games, when he literally did that and listed out how khaan acted in past games... Not to mention lynching someone who's not a wolf d1 isn't something that's damning in the first place.

I also kinda dislike how every case brought against him he just completely dismisses.

Meh.

**Zack** · 05-28-2017, 18:56

Originally Posted by Manasi

I also kinda dislike how every case brought against him he just completely dismisses.

Meh.

so what?

i don't really expect anyone to recognize merit in cases made against them, and in this instance they are lacking substance. I've dismissed them too.

**Manasi** · 05-28-2017, 19:03

Originally Posted by Zack

so what?

i don't really expect anyone to recognize merit in cases made against them, and in this instance they are lacking substance. I've dismissed them too.

Fzzt.

I do.

Sometimes.

OKAY.

**Montmorency** · 05-28-2017, 18:55

Originally Posted by Zack

And I mean, Monty's attack on GH for pushing khaan d1 is ludicrous. One of the points of his accusation is that GH didn't look into khaan's past games, when he literally did that and listed out how khaan acted in past games... Not to mention lynching someone who's not a wolf d1 isn't something that's damning in the first place.

That's not what I said. I said he was doing it superficially because when I threw more content for him to latch onto and try to spin into a case, he ignored it because mafia don't need to make a big case on D1. It was enough that he focused attention on someone not teamed with him, and influenced the lynch.

**Zack** · 05-28-2017, 19:03

Originally Posted by Montmorency

That's not what I said. I said he was doing it superficially because when I threw more content for him to latch onto and try to spin into a case, he ignored it because mafia don't need to make a big case on D1. It was enough that he focused attention on someone not teamed with him, and influenced the lynch.

Give me a post number to look at.

**Montmorency** · 05-28-2017, 19:28

Originally Posted by Zack

Give me a post number to look at.

Post 836.

**Zack** · 05-28-2017, 19:57

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Post 836.

No. Give me the post numbers of where you "threw more content for him to latch onto and try to spin into a case, he ignored it because mafia don't need to make a big case on D1"

**Montmorency** · 05-28-2017, 19:28

We might as well start to think about teams at this point.

Champ and Jabbz probably not teamed with Zack/Choxorn if one of them is scum.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

At EOD1, Champ voted Manasi (off-wagon) because he thought Khaan wasn't a good-enough wagon. Doesn't feel like distancing when it's almost a tacit endorsement of a Choxorn lynch at a time when that was a real possibility. Also, Manasi wasn't an alt-wagon for Champ-Chox because Choxorn was first to vote Manasi during EOD and then switched to voting Champ, after which Champ voted Manasi.

Originally Posted by Champ

i feel like she doesnt want to be here and isnt enjoying herself
she loves being town and her lack of engagement is nagl
i dont like khaan i just dont think hes the best lynch

At EOD2, Champ did nothing to influence the lynch away from Choxorn.

If Zack/Choxorn is scum, Jabbz could be partner based on D1 posting.

Start of connection D1 was asking the thread for summary of the case against Choxorn,

Originally Posted by Jabbz

My time is limited atm, could someone point a few post numbers to me that are making the major arguments against Chox? Thanks.

Offers neutral evaluation of Choxorn posts which Viper uses as a basis to vote him.

Originally Posted by Jabbz

Almost looks like he's shooting to vote for someone, but wants to be able to point to someone else later and be like "they told me to." Not exactly a subtle move tho.

Posted hedging vote on Choxorn just before time at EOD.

Originally Posted by Jabbz

The Choxorn vote doesn't look good, but also doesn't look bad I suppose. I feel it more than the Khaan vote at least. Not feeling scum from Severing, so that seems the best place to put it. Sorry for the hedging, I'll understand if people call me on it later.

Vote Choxorn

This is unlikely to be distancing because in the last 5 minutes of D1 the score was

4 votes: khaan (GeneralHankerchief, novice, Csargo, Cuthillius)
2 votes: Choxorn (SeveringViper, Manasi)
2 votes: Montmorency (autolycus, Logic)

with the last sequence of votes being Khaan > Choxorn, Choxorn > Khaan, Jabbz > Choxorn, Viper unvote Choxorn > Monty, Kemmler > Khaan.

During D2, he justified himself to GH as seeing more problems with Choxorn than Khaan, and then didn't show up for EOD2 to vote, a time when Choxorn was in his greatest peril ever from the lynch (tied vote).

Originally Posted by Jabbz

@GHC Basically I didn't want to vote on a guy I was not getting any scum vibes from, and I saw fewer problems with Khaan than Chox. Admittedly that might be because the Khaan case was developing over a larger period and I'm reading bits and pieces. I understand I'll be held accountable for it tho, just don't expect a better explanation, as my justification is weak. No vote or vote on anyone else would likely also get me questioned tomorrow anyway. GL all.