Pokemon Nuzlocke FireRed Mafia [Concluded]

[Jabbz]

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Vote: Logic

Why Logic?

Very well, I still do not see why I should not vote: Jabbz again.

Why me?

Specifics please from both, if that isn't too much to ask.

[El Barto]

Why me?

Specifics please from both, if that isn't too much to ask.

The reasoning is simple, Lemon Jabbz. I accused you yesterday and voted you for something, yet you refused to challenge my accusation. Even today, you completely ignore it. This is suspect behaviour.

[Jabbz]

The reasoning is simple, Lemon Jabbz. I accused you yesterday and voted you for something, yet you refused to challenge my accusation. Even today, you completely ignore it. This is suspect behaviour.

I ignore what you said today about me? I answered literally the only thing you said about me. Further, being unwilling to explain your argument against me makes it seem like a fairly weak argument. I'll do the work though and go back and take a look. I'll be honest, I'm not expecting to find much of note.

[Logic]

RE: Jabbz

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

This post makes me strongly suspect logic is vanilla town, based on the phrasing of my role pm.

I stand by my statement about logic. I find it unlikely that scum would make the connection I did to his post or would have come up with his post in the first place. Combined with a lack of negative feels from him so far this game, I feel safe putting him 98% town.

Doing my best but I overestimated the amount of time I had free, especially with this being memorial day weekend. Spent the morning with a VFW group putting flags on vet graves. Good times I know.

All I can say at the moment is that I find the voting on GHC to be odd, people make mistakes and day 1 is almost guaranteed for those. His defense does ruffle my senses a bit, he seems to be trying far to hard to be dismissive rather than actually defend himself, but then again his current travel situation could definitely justify that. I do however find his making my absence somehow a personal focus on him, rather that me just being busy. That really makes me feel like he's going after low hanging fruit.

I still stand by thinking that Logic is town for my aforementioned reasons.

I'm liking Severing more now than I did before, mostly because I thought he was Zack in hiding, now that is clearly not the case I find my reads to be substantially different likely because they were tinged by how they sounded compared to what I expected.

Zack is null, and I didn't view choxorn's case as overly substantial. My vote on Zack was purely a joke, anyone who knows about our past interaction wouldn't view that oddly I don't think.

Most of the rest I quite frankly haven't put enough time into. I would honestly be down to lynch GHC, but I feel that it is too possible the only reason he is coming across wrong is because he simply doesn't have the time to devote, so I'd be more inclined to want to see him be on the list tomorrow when he can defend himself.

I feel somewhat hypocritical supporting lynching a lurker, but in my defense I am contributing more than a few of the others, and I think that's the direction I'd head, supporting a group consensus on the matter as long as said consensus isn't myself.

I have logic as basically confirmed town, so I would love to hear what you have to say that would confirm him as wolf instead. That way I can decide whether you are just using poor arguments, or are being shifty AF.

Why Logic?



Why me?

Specifics please from both, if that isn't too much to ask.

He has used "logic" 5 times, and in 4 of those, he is making a case for me being town, and the remaining instance is asking Champ why he thinks I am lock wolf. Not that I don't appreciate the assessment, but I can't help but feel that his case isn't strong enough. I know I'm town, but he is making leaps that don't completely add up.

As for you, I have a shortlist of suspects that used the antidote that cured Manasi's poison condition, and you are on it.

[Montmorency]

Okay, now I know Monty isn't reading my posts.

Please, you haven't said much since D1 other than to suss Jabbz, Barto, and Choxorn, and to defend yourself from me.

I've read all of your posts, and I gave your latest question a precise answer.

Was there something else you had in mind?

As for you, I have a shortlist of suspects that used the antidote that cured Manasi's poison condition, and you are on it.

I did not see you going there. Can you say more about these antidote hypotheses?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Please, you haven't said much since D1 other than to suss Jabbz, Barto, and Choxorn, and to defend yourself from me.

I've read all of your posts, and I gave your latest question a precise answer.

Was there something else you had in mind?

Okay, then you're purposely not bothering to read into them other than jam them into the reality you either desperately want to be true or you desperately want other people to believe they're true (still not sure which yet), which is quite possibly even worse.

I've made it clear on numerous occasions that I would have very low participation from Thursday afternoon to Monday night, inclusive. I mentioned it in the sign-up thread. Pizza clarified it and okay'd it. I mentioned it here. I mentioned it offsite. EOD2 was Thursday evening, 6 eastern to be exact. I mentioned twice that I was driving during that time and was stopping for a quick bite to eat and caught up with the thread. I read the posts, fully caught up with 2 minutes to go, and made a decision to go with Raith. I stuck around longer at that rest stop than I should have to see the flip, saw it, and then resumed driving.

Yet you're ascribing all of these motives like it was a predetermined play on my part or me executing Plan Omega as a last resort to save a partner or something. It's an intentional cognitive dissonance on your part and you seem to be unable to reconcile the reality of my RL situation at the time to your predetermined vision of events, and I'm starting to believe it's intentional on your part.

[Zack]

I should probably re-read some to confirm, but at the moment I think Viper and Monty are wolf partners. Maybe Csargo. When someone like Monty keeps getting votes but dodging the lynch, it usually means they're a wolf being saved or they're a villager being saved by wolves as a mislynch to keep in their back pocket.

But I think Viper and Monty are both individually wolfy for reasons I've talked about, and off the top of my head they make a lot of sense as partners (like I said, haven't re-read to confirm this).

[Montmorency]

Yet you're ascribing all of these motives like it was a predetermined play on my part or me executing Plan Omega as a last resort to save a partner or something.

When did I do that? You mean where I answered novice wrt Zack?

I was just giving the range of possibilities in a scenario where Choxorn was scum in the D2 wagons. That wasn't a case against you. Who did you say wasn't reading carefully?

Do you have a response to my Post 1119 response to you, on this page?

When someone like Monty keeps getting votes but dodging the lynch, it usually means they're a wolf being saved or they're a villager being saved by wolves as a mislynch to keep in their back pocket.

Sounds plausible.

[novice]

When someone like Monty keeps getting votes but dodging the lynch, it usually means they're a wolf being saved or they're a villager being saved by wolves as a mislynch to keep in their back pocket.

So it's null?
Monty wasn't saved on day three.

[Zack]

So it's null?
Monty wasn't saved on day three.

Yes he was... the Auto wagon came out of nowhere based on something pretty weak.

[Manasi]

As for you, I have a shortlist of suspects that used the antidote that cured Manasi's poison condition, and you are on it.

why they gotta be a suspect

they donated to a 10/10 cause

[Jabbz]

RE: Jabbz

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

He has used "logic" 5 times, and in 4 of those, he is making a case for me being town, and the remaining instance is asking Champ why he thinks I am lock wolf. Not that I don't appreciate the assessment, but I can't help but feel that his case isn't strong enough. I know I'm town, but he is making leaps that don't completely add up.

As for you, I have a shortlist of suspects that used the antidote that cured Manasi's poison condition, and you are on it.

I would be more specific regarding this Logic, but I risk treading on rule breaking if I do so. You claim VT, and the way you talk about your role is not the way someone would talk about VT in a normal game. In reading my own PM I came to a conclusion that I feel is very similar to what you came to. You can find it fishy if you want, that's ok. I don't see much to gain by trying to cozy up to you, and it has in fact drawn a lot of attention to me, something scum Jabbz would mislike greatly. You don't have to trust me for my perception, but I'll continue to trust you.