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Askthepizzaguy 23:10 05-31-2017



Day four

Nugget Bridge Battle



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Nugget Bridge



After a long and grueling journey through the caves at Mt. Moon, having exhausted all potions and antidotes, our plucky protagonist finally makes it to Cerulean City, and decides to try to catch an Abra.

After all, it evolves into one of the best pokemon in the game. A fast psychic-type with extraordinarily high special attack, capable of being taught many different kinds of moves, so it can do heavy damage to just about anything.




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But the entrance to this bridge is guarded by a creature, so FOUL and so CRUEL, no man yet has fought with it and lived!!! Bones of full fifty pokemon lie strewn about the river, so brave adventurer if you do doubt your courage, or your strength, come nay further!

For DEATH awaits you all... with big, nasty, sharp, pointy hair.



















Gary Oak:

"Hey, Dork! Still haven't given up, have ya? Well, I've gotten 8 badges already while you were bumbling around blindly in Mount Moon! I have the most elite Pokemon team in the world, and soon, I'm going to be the Kanto Champion! Before I make it to the big time, I figured I'd swing by here and put an end to your pathetic Pokemon training dream!



Charizard! I choose you!


Now.... HIT.... MY.... MUSIC!!!"






















Charizard






Trainer:

". . . . . ."









Squirtle







Gary Oak:

"Charizard, use Dragon Claw!!!"










A devastating slash!




Trainer:

". . . . . ."













Squirtle withdrew into its shell!

The attack had no effect!!!






Gary Oak:

"Charizard, use Fly!"









Charizard flew way up high!




Trainer:

". . . . . ."









It looks like the attack missed the target!





Gary Oak:

"Enough of this nonsense. Charizard, finish him!!!"



Trainer:

". . . . . ."









Squirtle withdrew into its shell again!

It continues to do no damage!!









Gary Oak:

"FIRE BLAST!!!! FIRE BLAST!!!!"







Woah!! Look out!!!






Trainer:

". . . . . . !!!"













*Critical hit!*


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A POKEMON HAS FAINTED!!!!



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Askthepizzaguy 23:13 05-31-2017
SeveringViper fainted!

He was...

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Squirtle, Level 25



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Townie
Unlimited Self-protect (Cannot be used on consecutive nights)
1x roleblock





But he was really....
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Squirtle, Level 25, a Townie

Like I said.


Oooooooh.... that was your starter pokemon, too.

Yowch. That's gotta hurt!

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Go team Gary! Go team Gary! Go team Gary!



Team Gary. Original Gangstas.



Begin Night Four.

Do Not Post! It is Night!


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Askthepizzaguy 22:47 06-01-2017



Night Four






After taking heavy losses on Nugget Bridge, the trainer captured some pokemon on route 24 and 25, and made their way to Pokemaniac Bill's house.

Bill is an expert on all things Pokemon. Not only did he invent the Pokemon PC storage system, which allows Pokemon to be stored electronically (A harrowing experience, I can assure you... what if there's a power outage?) but he is also super rich and is constantly experimenting with new kinds of technology, and new forms of travel.

Having traveled the world on the S.S. Anne, he decided to set his powerful mind to work on human and pokemon teleportation. That way, trainers and pokemon from all around the world would be able to meet up and battle much more conveniently, and then it would be a lot simpler to decide who was rightfully the Pokemon World Champion.

So the trainer arrived just in time to see Pokemaniac Bill try out his new invention for the first time, and he stepped into the teleporter with his favorite Beedrill.

What happened next was truly amazing and would revolutionize the way human beings not only thought about instantaneous travel, but I daresay, would also give the whole of humanity a unique and profound perspective on the bond between man and pokemon.




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Pokemaniac Bill:
"Kill.... me.... Kill..... me....."





So anyway.... yadda yadda yadda, Trainer helped out poor old bill by reversing the process, separating him from his pokemon and making sure everything was back to normal. Let's get on with the story.




Pokemaniac Bill:

"Wow, kid, that's some nice pokemon you have there. I hope you have been taking good care of them, and haven't been just letting them be torn to shreds in battle after battle, then leaving them behind to rot on the side of the road. Anyway, if you love to travel as much as I do, then please take this S.S. Ticket."



Trainer's eye began to twitch.



Pokemaniac Bill:

"Please take this S.S. Ticket."


*twitch*



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Pokemaniac Bill:

"Please take this S.S. Ticket."


*twitch*


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Pokemaniac Bill:

"Please take this S.S. Ticket."


*twitch*



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Pokemaniac Bill:

"Please take this S.S. Ticket."


*twitch*



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Pokemaniac Bill:

"Please take this S.S. Ticket."

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Pokemaniac Bill:

"Please take this S.S. Ticket."




*twitch*


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Pokemaniac Bill:

"Please take this S.S. Ticket."


*twitch*


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*twitch*


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Pokemaniac Bill:

"Please take this S.S. Ticket."




*twitch*


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All glory to Lord Helix



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*twitch*



A pokemon has....


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Askthepizzaguy 22:49 06-01-2017
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No one fainted.



Begin Day Five.

You may post.


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Montmorency 23:03 06-01-2017
I was playing in the beginning, the mood all changed.
I've been chewed up and spit out and booed off stage.


Now I must face up to the truth I've known deep inside me all along: only I have the power to guide Town to salvation.

I'm not going to tell you that Viper was lock town, but he was clearly an awful choice for lynch that day. And so Barto got saved and one of our last great PRs was sacrificed in his stead. That Viper wagon was crawling with scum definite, likely all of them, so it's time to quit playing around. We have no other choice but to lynch GH or Barto today, and don't heed anyone who tells you otherwise.

Champ, I'm willing to let slide in all this commotion, but if I have wondered about Zack potential coasting, then Csargo has reprised the trend tenfold. I tolerate no more.

All of pure heart, arise and be distinguished.

Townie Squad assemble!

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Montmorency 23:29 06-01-2017
@novice @Jabbz

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Zack 00:27 06-02-2017
Vote: Csargo

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Zack 00:31 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
I'm not going to tell you that Viper was lock town, but he was clearly an awful choice for lynch that day.
1. Play super aggressively early. Drastic drop off in solving and activity, tone shifts to apologetic and woe is me for previous mislynches. Instead of trying to get back into it and solve, be a spiteful ass and do nothing but tunnel/omgus Zack for no good reason.
2. Counterclaim some random 1x block claim when you're a powerful PR. Eventually use the 1x block part of your role on someone you call a strong town read. Never claim your role when you are under lynch pressure.

Personally, not how I would expect a villager to ever play that role.

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Zack 00:39 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
Champ, I'm willing to let slide in all this commotion, but if I have wondered about Zack potential coasting, then Csargo has reprised the trend tenfold. I tolerate no more.
Accusing me of coasting hasn't made sense at any point.

And do you realize how that Autolycus wagon looks if Csargo flips scum?

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Montmorency 00:55 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Zack:
1. Play super aggressively early. Drastic drop off in solving and activity, tone shifts to apologetic and woe is me for previous mislynches. Instead of trying to get back into it and solve, be a spiteful ass and do nothing but tunnel/omgus Zack for no good reason.
2. Counterclaim some random 1x block claim when you're a powerful PR. Eventually use the 1x block part of your role on someone you call a strong town read. Never claim your role when you are under lynch pressure.

Personally, not how I would expect a villager to ever play that role.
Novice took a good approach to the question.

Originally Posted by novice:
Regarding Zack, the case on Monty yesterday and on Viper today is the kind of case I like to pursue myself, and you can really get going picking apart the responses of the accused. I've mislynched many people with cases like this though. Some people just aren't good at defending even when town, or are too stubborn, or fail to see problems with their own play. I guess what I'm saying is that if Monty and Viper are town, which I find very possible, we're really making things easy for scum!Zack, and I'm a bit concerned that he just keeps pushing instead of seeing things from all sides.
Originally Posted by Zack:
Accusing me of coasting hasn't made sense at any point.

And do you realize how that Autolycus wagon looks if Csargo flips scum?
You after half-time yesterday: I have an active fella hostile to me set up to swing? Well, my work here is done.

It's certainly concerning to me how you back off me when you see that I'm not a threat.

How about you let me lynch scum? We have today, and tomorrow is LYLO at 5T-3M (assuming 1 nightkill).

E.g. my top team is GH-Barto-Csargo, Champ wildcard. Manasi and Logic are null, but at some point have to be factored into the combinations. I can't subscribe to lynching Csargo just because that's the only place we overlap.


ANNOUNCING ANY BLOCKS OR OTHER KILL-STOPPING ACTIONS LAST NIGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THE LYNCH

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Zack 01:00 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
No one fainted.
I didn't read anything else before making my vote.

Originally Posted by Zack:
Vote: Csargo


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Zack 01:04 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
Novice took a good approach to the question.
If I'm town, why should I back down if someone is doing a poor job responding to me? That's not a good approach, it's an approach which contorts the evidence to match the accusation.

Originally Posted by :
You after half-time yesterday: I have an active fella hostile to me set up to swing? Well, my work here is done.

It's certainly concerning to me how you back off me when you see that I'm not a threat.
Then stop being a narcissist. Unlike you apparently, I don't restrict myself to pushing the exact same thing the entire game.

Originally Posted by :
How about you let me lynch scum? We have today, and tomorrow is LYLO at 5T-3M (assuming 1 nightkill).

E.g. my top team is GH-Barto-Csargo, Champ wildcard. Manasi and Logic are null, but at some point have to be factored into the combinations. I can't subscribe to lynching Csargo just because that's the only place we overlap.
You didn't answer my question.

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Montmorency 01:04 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by novice:
Day 1
6 votes: seireikhaan (Csargo, GeneralHankerchief, novice, Cuthillius, Choxorn, Raith Kemmler)
4 votes: Montmorency (autolycus, BSmith, Logic, SeveringViper)
3 votes: choxorn (Manasi, seireikhaan, Jabbz)
2 votes: GeneralHankerchief (El Barto, Sooh)
1 votes: Manasi (Champ)
1 votes: Severing Viper (Montmorency)

Day 2
5 votes: Raith Kemmler (Sooh, Montmorency, Logic, Manasi, GeneralHankerchief)
4 votes: choxorn (Csargo, novice, El Barto, SeveringViper)
1 votes: Montmorency (autolycus)
1 votes: El Barto (BSmith)


Day 3
3 votes: Autolycus (Csargo, SeveringViper, Montmorency)
3 votes: Montmorency (Zack, novice, Jabbz)
2 votes: Jabbz (El Barto, GeneralHankerchief)
1 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Logic)
1 votes: Champ (BSmith)
1 votes: Bsmith (autolycus)
1 votes: Logic (Champ)
Day 4

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
Lynch votes
6 votes: SeveringViper (Zack, Logic, Csargo El Barto, Manasi, GH
4 votes: El Barto (Jabbz, novice, Montmorency SeveringViper
1 votes: Jabbz (Champ


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Montmorency 01:08 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Zack:
I didn't read anything else before making my vote.
What else was there of importance to read? Are you referring to other players'/Csargo's posts on D3?

Originally Posted by Zack:
If I'm town, why should I back down if someone is doing a poor job responding to me? That's not a good approach, it's an approach which contorts the evidence to match the accusation.
Not voting to lynch isn't the same as backing down, since the gratuitousness of his act was townie enough to hold off.

Originally Posted by :
You didn't answer my question.
Csargo flipping scum? He's my partner, then? Who's the #3? I'd worry more about GH flipping town, since although Csargo and Barto were voting Choxorn to the end D2, GH's change was what saved him/you.

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Zack 01:13 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
What else was there of importance to read? Are you referring to other players'/Csargo's posts on D3?
The art of subtlety is lost on some, I suppose. Not that I was even being remotely subtle.

Originally Posted by :
Not voting to lynch isn't the same as backing down, since the gratuitousness of his act was townie enough to hold off.
What?

Originally Posted by :
Csargo flipping scum? He's my partner, then? Who's the #3? I'd worry more about GH flipping town, since although Csargo and Barto were voting Choxorn to the end D2, GH's change was what saved him/you.
If he's not your partner, then why so insistent to lynch auto over you? I don't care about the #3, that's a question wolves ask to defend themselves. I don't have to construct an entire team to call someone a wolf.

I'm not calling GH a wolf, and never have really, so if you're trying to call me a hypocrite (?) then it doesn't fit.

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Zack 01:14 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Zack:
The art of subtlety is lost on some, I suppose. Not that I was even being remotely subtle.


What?


If he's not your partner (but still a wolf), then why so insistent to lynch auto over you? I don't care about the #3, that's a question wolves ask to defend themselves. I don't have to construct an entire team to call someone a wolf.

I'm not calling GH a wolf, and never have really, so if you're trying to call me a hypocrite (?) then it doesn't fit.
emphasis mine

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Jabbz 01:19 06-02-2017
All reads subject to change after iso reads in the upcoming day, but this is where I view things currently.

Lock Town
Logic

Likely Town
Manasi

Unsure in no particular order
Novice
Csargo
Zack choxorn

Possible Scum
Champ
Montmorency

Scum, El Barto more sure than GHC
GeneralHankerchief
El Barto

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Montmorency 01:19 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Zack:
The art of subtlety is lost on some, I suppose. Not that I was even being remotely subtle.
You could have explained yourself in the same number of words. Take this opportunity to do so.

Originally Posted by :
What?
You implied that not lynching Viper would have been equivalent to backing off him. That's wrong, and it's a dodge.

Originally Posted by :
If he's not your partner, then why so insistent to lynch auto over you? I don't care about the #3, that's a question wolves ask to defend themselves. I don't have to construct an entire team to call someone a wolf.
That's a possibility, but the way you constructed the question is bad and you should recognize that. The two items need not be related. Viper was equally insistent, and he was town. Town players have ideas on who should be lynched, and prefer some lynches over others.

Originally Posted by :
I'm not calling GH a wolf, and never have really, so if you're trying to call me a hypocrite (?) then it doesn't fit.
It's not about what you said, but of what GH did. All my top suspects voted you, but GH went off you and that's the only reason you are here. So if GH flips town, you look better, while if he flips scum, you look worse. This is a parallelism to your Csargo connection.

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Montmorency 01:21 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Zack:
emphasis mine
Csargo's alternative (other than having settled a vote earlier in the day) would have been to lurk and not vote - not permitted - or place a vote on me. If both auto and myself are town, then he has to vote someone anyway.

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Zack 01:28 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
You could have explained yourself in the same number of words. Take this opportunity to do so.


Originally Posted by :
You implied that not lynching Viper would have been equivalent to backing off him. That's wrong, and it's a dodge.
I'm not sure what backing off even means in that case.

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Montmorency 01:35 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Zack:
You don't want to explain what you said.

Originally Posted by :
I'm not sure what backing off even means in that case.
You are not sure what you meant when you said it.

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Zack 01:37 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
You are not sure what you meant when you said it.
I know exactly what I meant. I'm not sure what you mean.

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Montmorency 01:44 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Zack:
I know exactly what I meant. I'm not sure what you mean.
You didn't like what Viper was doing, so you 'went after' him. This culminated in you voting to lynch him. You didn't want to back down. But if you had held off on lynching him and instead tried again the next day, that wouldn't have been backing off. Dropping the case completely would have been backing off.

It was a bad case to lynch on D4, and recognizing that wouldn't have meant you had to back down.

Now please explain what you said here.

Originally Posted by Zack:
I didn't read anything else before making my vote.


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Zack 02:00 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
You didn't like what Viper was doing, so you 'went after' him. This culminated in you voting to lynch him. You didn't want to back down. But if you had held off on lynching him and instead tried again the next day, that wouldn't have been backing off. Dropping the case completely would have been backing off.

It was a bad case to lynch on D4, and recognizing that wouldn't have meant you had to back down.
I am done responding to your non sequiturs. If you want to discuss something sensibly, let me know.

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Montmorency 02:06 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by Zack:
I am done responding to your non sequiturs. If you want to discuss something sensibly, let me know.
I imagine you can explain one thing in a sentence. It's what you would have wanted from Viper. If you don't, I'll just have to dog you about it all day. Your choice.

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GeneralHankerchief 02:12 06-02-2017
Vote: Csargo

Gut call.

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GeneralHankerchief 02:29 06-02-2017
I've done some thinking overnight and this is about where I'm at:

novice
Manasi
Zack

El Barto
Logic

Champ
Montmorency

Jabbz
Csargo

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Zack's basically posted himself out of any suspicion I might have of him, with today's behavior so far being the capper. He's done a great job at clearing his slot and all in all I'm pretty happy with my decision to save Choxorn on EOD2.

After taking a look at Logic at EOD yesterday, I'm moving him up a slot into the lean town category. No smoking gun that clears him, but just decent overall posts and progressions/thoughts that I have a hard time seeing come from mafia.

Champ is a tough one mostly because while his overall output hasn't been good, he was super quick to jump on the wagon of my biggest scumread at the time when I was making a serious push for Jabbz to be lynched at EOD yesterday. Somewhat doubt the two of them are partners together, which is another reason why I'd like a Jabbz flip sooner rather than later - so I can provisionally clear Champ.

Csargo made his play for Viper and succeeded but overall I think it's a case of "won the battle, lost the war" for him. Scum have fewer places to hide now and something tells me that he'll flip red.

Jabbz, if any part of my attack against you came off as an implication that you were lying about your RL commitments, then I apologize as that was not my intention. I like to think I don't resort to those tactics when hunting mafia and if it even comes close to crossing the line then that's on me. Overall though I still think you're mafia, largely due to overall output of posts and specifically what I highlighted in my last reads list - in general I think you're being far too careful and measured in your posting and I think you made a slip yesterday. But Csargo can die first.

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Montmorency 02:35 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief:
I've done some thinking overnight and this is about where I'm at:

novice
Manasi
Zack

El Barto
Logic

Champ
Montmorency

Jabbz
Csargo

~~~~~~~~~~

Zack's basically posted himself out of any suspicion I might have of him, with today's behavior so far being the capper. He's done a great job at clearing his slot and all in all I'm pretty happy with my decision to save Choxorn on EOD2.

After taking a look at Logic at EOD yesterday, I'm moving him up a slot into the lean town category. No smoking gun that clears him, but just decent overall posts and progressions/thoughts that I have a hard time seeing come from mafia.

Champ is a tough one mostly because while his overall output hasn't been good, he was super quick to jump on the wagon of my biggest scumread at the time when I was making a serious push for Jabbz to be lynched at EOD yesterday. Somewhat doubt the two of them are partners together, which is another reason why I'd like a Jabbz flip sooner rather than later - so I can provisionally clear Champ.

Csargo made his play for Viper and succeeded but overall I think it's a case of "won the battle, lost the war" for him. Scum have fewer places to hide now and something tells me that he'll flip red.

Jabbz, if any part of my attack against you came off as an implication that you were lying about your RL commitments, then I apologize as that was not my intention. I like to think I don't resort to those tactics when hunting mafia and if it even comes close to crossing the line then that's on me. Overall though I still think you're mafia, largely due to overall output of posts and specifically what I highlighted in my last reads list - in general I think you're being far too careful and measured in your posting and I think you made a slip yesterday. But Csargo can die first.
Well then.

My present orientation is to lynch GH first at all costs.

Any comments on the night, GH? Didja try to kill novice?

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GeneralHankerchief 02:38 06-02-2017
I'm a townie, Monty. Are you?

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Montmorency 02:41 06-02-2017
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief:
I'm a townie, Monty. Are you?
Couldn't be more so.

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