Pokemon Nuzlocke FireRed Mafia [Concluded]

[Raith Kemmler]

Is that Pokemon jargon or the clumsiest breadcrumb ever?

Jargon on Charmander mauling the sprout. Speed glitch defined meta back in the day. Persian was top cat and could slash crit with a 99% confidence thanks to it. Having a nostalgia trip. No breadcrumb here. Not a big fan of it honestly.

[Sooh]

Good knowing speed = certain crit is still here. Original Gen mechanics? Total Crap.

Squirtle? The hell? Can we pretend we have better pokemon?

So guys? What's up?

Vote:Sooh

Oy! I was excited about squirtle. He was my first choice. You heathen!

Two words minimum. "Rookie scum" would be a sufficient answer, for example.

Hm, how about "Mid tier"?

Plus we've played together before, I'm pretty sure.

[novice]

Aha. Fascinating how that background info suddenly makes your original statement parseable. :)

I like to breadcrumb. Mainly because I love cryptics, word puzzles and the like.

[Logic]

Aha. Fascinating how that background info suddenly makes your original statement parseable. :)

I like to breadcrumb. Mainly because I love cryptics, word puzzles and the like.

Breadcrumbing is bad, because I am awful at it.

Did anyone else ever name their Poke-rival after a real world person they couldn't stand? My poke-rival was always named "Seth." I was in high-school by the time I started playing pokemon (4 years after its debut.)

[Raith Kemmler]

Actual style answer-

Offense > defense.

Townies who protect themselves to survive aren't worthless. They're worse. They deadweight. Find wolves. Win game. Second goal? Look townie to narrow suspects. Survival is dumb. Town is a herd. Swarm and trample wolves. You die doing it? Acceptable loss. Wolves can win with you surviving. Don't be dumb, focus on actual goal. Not what makes you feel better.

Breadcrumbing occasionally okay, but dangerous cause wolves got more intel. Better nose for finding it. Good idea for Cops though. Activity good. Posts with real content good. Don't take game too seriously. Be competitive but relax.

Analyse thoughts again as game goes. Don't stick with old thoughts. Keep reassessing. Bias is a trap. Be willing to be wrong. Then try again. Get closer to truth. Basic science.

Oy! I was excited about squirtle. He was my first choice. You heathen!

Hm, how about "Mid tier"?

Plus we've played together before, I'm pretty sure.

If you can explain the wing nonsense on Wartortle we can be friends again.

Mid? Seems humble for someone who fought in champs.

Breadcrumbing is bad, because I am awful at it.

Did anyone else ever name their Poke-rival after a real world person they couldn't stand? My poke-rival was always named "Seth." I was in high-school by the time I started playing pokemon (4 years after its debut.)

Named 'Blue' Spatula in my first game.

[novice]

That's a lot of pointless humoring, Raith.

[novice]

That's a lot of pointless humoring, Raith.

To elaborate, either you're filling the thread with stuff you deem pointless, or you were shading me when you called it pointless.

Incredibly weak, but hey, day one and all that.
Raith Kemmler

Umm... Where's the color picker?

[Sooh]

If you can explain the wing nonsense on Wartortle we can be friends again.

Mid? Seems humble for someone who fought in champs.

It's cute how you actually think I know something about Pokemon.

I haven't fought in Champs yet.

[novice]

Breadcrumbing is bad, because I am awful at it.

Did anyone else ever name their Poke-rival after a real world person they couldn't stand? My poke-rival was always named "Seth." I was in high-school by the time I started playing pokemon (4 years after its debut.)

Hi Logic! Pity I don't know you well enough to insert a joke here about high school, poke and debut.

Are you a deductive kind of player then?

[novice]

Yeah, we've played before, Sooh. Do you think you can read me?

Hi Jabbz! I know I can't read you. Or maybe I can since you can't vote for my brother in this game...

[Sooh]

Yeah, we've played before, Sooh. Do you think you can read me?

Hi Jabbz! I know I can't read you. Or maybe I can since you can't vote for my brother in this game...

lol no better than the rest of them.

Do you think you can read me?

[novice]

lol no better than the rest of them.

Do you think you can read me?

Not particularly, I don't remember many specifics. I guess I have a (unverbalizable) mental model of what kind of player you are, and if you do something at odds with that I might react. But of course that could then just be an error in my model.

I have you stereotyped, I guess.

[Sooh]

Not particularly, I don't remember many specifics. I guess I have a (unverbalizable) mental model of what kind of player you are, and if you do something at odds with that I might react. But of course that could then just be an error in my model.

I have you stereotyped, I guess.

Hm.

Good stereotype or bad stereotype?

[novice]

Hm.

Good stereotype or bad stereotype?

Inasmuch as stereotypes can be good, this one is.

[SeveringViper]

Not particularly, I don't remember many specifics. I guess I have a (unverbalizable) mental model of what kind of player you are, and if you do something at odds with that I might react. But of course that could then just be an error in my model.

I have you stereotyped, I guess.

A detective with a defined mental model/stereotype of something/someone can be a poor detective, indeed. So you've just said that Sooh can throw off your game. Nice to state that you have preconceptions of her in advance, but how do you plan to deal with that before it can lead to error? Are you just going to let others work on reading her?

[novice]

Understood.

Oh, also, related to my previous post, you can start talking about Sooh now, I'd like to hear as much from you in regards to a self-admitted potential blind spot/false negative as possible. Discussion corrects blindness and errors.

A detective with a defined mental model/stereotype of something/someone can be a poor detective, indeed. So you've just said that Sooh can throw off your game. Nice to state that you have preconceptions of her in advance, but how do you plan to deal with that before it can lead to error? Are you just going to let others work on reading her?

I had a long, on point but also witty response typed out and then my browser crashed.
In short I stereotype everyone, and everyone does that. So I'm a bit surprised to be asked to discuss Sooh specifically at this point. Generally you just have to try and compensate for bias in your estimations, and also fall back on more objective evidence such as voting records, power role results and interaction patterns.

The best process, as you allude to, is the scientific one, where you have a group of peers critiquing each other's work. Everybody's biased, but in a collective the biases might cancel out (or not - groupthink is a very real danger). Not so easy of course when the group is infiltrated by scumbags, but still.

I get the feeling my browser is about to crash again so let me share my Sooh reads in the next post.

[novice]

Meant to say also that I should probably have described myself as an interrogator and not a detective, as I'm not brilliant at drawing conclusions.

[novice]

I had a long, on point but also witty response typed out and then my browser crashed.

I blame the fireworks...

[SeveringViper]

I had a long, on point but also witty response typed out and then my browser crashed.
In short I stereotype everyone, and everyone does that. So I'm a bit surprised to be asked to discuss Sooh specifically at this point. Generally you just have to try and compensate for bias in your estimations, and also fall back on more objective evidence such as voting records, power role results and interaction patterns.

The best process, as you allude to, is the scientific one, where you have a group of peers critiquing each other's work. Everybody's biased, but in a collective the biases might cancel out (or not - groupthink is a very real danger). Not so easy of course when the group is infiltrated by scumbags, but still.

I get the feeling my browser is about to crash again so let me share my Sooh reads in the next post.

I asked about Sooh specifically because she's the only one you've mentioned knowing long enough to have developed a full mental model of how she acts/plays that can bias you, and she's already started posting and doing things that can be read.

Shame about your browser, but hopefully it doesn't delay your posting too much.

[El Barto]

I get the feeling my browser is about to crash again so let me share my Sooh reads in the next post.

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[novice]

About Sooh. I stereotype her as the helpful, observing type, who (tries to) facilitate discussion, gathers evidence, and follows up with good insights later, not having too many strong opinions, but also rarely being wrong. Does not drive the lynch.

So she's on schedule so far but has a lot to live up to later...

That really sounds like a ridiculous stereotype now that I type it out. How does it fit, Sooh?

What is your read on Sooh, Viper?