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novice 05:44 05-28-2017
Tally as of post 870:

Lynch votes
3 votes: Champ (BSmith, Csargo, novice)
2 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Montmorency, Logic)
2 votes: Jabbz (El Barto, GeneralHankerchief)
1 votes: Zack (Jabbz)
1 votes: Montmorency (Zack)
1 votes: Bsmith (autolycus)

Voting history:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
GeneralHankerchief
Originally Posted by Csargo:
GeneralHankerchief
Originally Posted by El Barto:
GeneralHankerchief
Originally Posted by BSmith:
Champ
Originally Posted by Logic:
GeneralHankerchief
Originally Posted by novice:
Autolycus
Originally Posted by Jabbz:
Zack
Originally Posted by Zack:
Montmorency
Originally Posted by Csargo:
Champ
Originally Posted by novice:
GeneralHankerchief
Originally Posted by El Barto:
Jabbz
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief:
Jabbz
Originally Posted by autolycus:
Bsmith
Originally Posted by novice:
Champ


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Zack 05:52 05-28-2017
Originally Posted by Jabbz:
All I can say at the moment is that I find the voting on GHC to be odd, people make mistakes and day 1 is almost guaranteed for those.
Can you talk specifically about Montmorency?

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Zack 05:58 05-28-2017
Originally Posted by autolycus:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
Alright, one sentence hot-takes:

autolycus-Placing myself here for completeness

Nulls:
Zack-Just entered the game. I got a confusing vibe off choxorn, which I'm going to put down to RL.
Bsmith-I appreciate his signal to noise comment, and agree with his sentiments on Champ, but that could just be lurker bashing.
Manasi-The poisoned one. That tends town, but his tone feels somewhat off to me, so I'll keep him neutral for now.
Novice: Our biggest poster, but with opinions to match. I haven't played with him before so I don't know what to make of this earnestness.
csargo: In line with previous performances.

Lean Town:
Logic- Consistent activity, taking positions, feels town to me.
GH- More emotional than usual, that cuts toward town GH to me, but he's probably the least town-feeling of my town leans at the moment.
El Barto- If I followed that correctly, he's claimed poisoning Manasi. He has the guts to claim as scum, but the badgering Manasi about timing feels town to me.
SeveringViper:Very aggressive and abrasive tone, combined with some decent analysis, I don't see that coming from scum.


Lean Scum:
Montmorency- This is less about his behavior as the fact that for two days running, he's been a major lynch contender and then the lynch doesn't land on him (D1) or drifts away from him for unclear reasons (D2).


Lurker-null:
Jabbz- Similar post profile to Jabbz, but the role pm analysis attempt feels like trying, plus he's said he's busy, so I'll leave him null for now.

Lurker-scum:
Champ- >25 posts, and he's said less of meaning than me.

Hmm, no one's really standing out but Champ, and he has enough votes for now. I know I'm at risk of tunnel vision on Monty if I'm not careful, so I'll vote: Bsmith for now. Be back on tomorrow morning.
I don't get your vote, given the rest of the post.

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Zack 06:05 05-28-2017
Viper has been pretty subdued today.

Manasi posted a lot at start of day, but didn't really say much of substance and disappeared.

The willingness from so many to lynch GH perplexes me -- he is easily the person I feel most confident calling town, other than myself.

People keep saying Barto is capable of doing such things (claiming the poison when he had no reason to do so -- a 1x poisoner just died and claiming it just antagonizes someone without benefit), but I don't know why. What I've seen isn't anything like scum games of his I can recall. Granted most of the thread I didn't read in too much depth.

Csargo seems to be coasting.

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Csargo 06:26 05-28-2017
Hi Zack. I wasn't convinced by your MSPaint drawing, though you clearly are going places, such a talented man.

If coasting equals netflix, then yeah I've been coasting. Since I'm here ask away, I'm all ears, or eyes rather.

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Zack 06:31 05-28-2017
i'd prefer you do stuff on your own without me having to prompt you

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Csargo 06:55 05-28-2017
Odd.

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novice 15:37 05-28-2017
@El Barto: Why did you poison Manasi?

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Montmorency 15:37 05-28-2017
I like Jabbz' recent posts better.

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novice 15:46 05-28-2017
Originally Posted by Champ:
I forgot this existed
Originally Posted by Champ:
Why must you lie
manasi
so i dont get replaced
Champ is worried about being replaced, but not about being lynched.

I'm having a hard time finding something constructive to do.

Monty, you can have my vote for now.
Vote: Montmorency
Why did you claim on D2, what was the rush?

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Montmorency 15:52 05-28-2017
To demonstrate good will.

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Manasi 17:22 05-28-2017
Hi.

I left to do family things yesterday and then essentially went straight to bed.

I'm gonna reread from SOD and hit y'all with some TAKES.

I hope.

I might also just get distracted again.

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Manasi 17:51 05-28-2017
Is there a max # of multiquotes/post?

Welp.

Gonna be a few posts from me then weee.

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Manasi 17:53 05-28-2017
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
Actually, this is troubling. GH deploys his "chaos" card in most games, but in his last two scum games here (Bird Mafia and IKEA Mafia) he doesn't seem to have. So it could be slightly town-indicative.

...

Let's lynch him and find out.
This is bad logic and you should not be proud of yourself for it.

Originally Posted by SeveringViper:
Seemingly controversial thought: The sudden vote on Raith to decide the lynch right at the end was a bold move, and the quick formation of a wagon on GH before he has the chance to respond/defend himself at all is not something I like.
Good progress I suppose, having a lynch is infinitely more beneficial than randing one though. The fact that GH was not ITT due to other shit and then popped in close to EOD isn't really alignment indicative especially given that he has already claimed not being in the thread. ONly makes sense that he'd check in at important times.

Originally Posted by El Barto:
Because of the shenanigans to shift the vote onto Raith Kemmler last night, one would say.

But, luckily, there is no majority lynch mechanism in place, my good friend.
"Shift vote onto"

He was leading for the most part anyway I think. Could be wrong, but it looks like you're just making up a reason to push on to GH right now lul.

Originally Posted by El Barto:
Champ and GeneralHankerchief would be a good pair of leading waggons. Let us not lose sight of Choxorn/Zack, just in case.
Not a fan of this post. Keeping options open on at least two people who are villagers IMO.

Originally Posted by Logic:
GH and Champ are my top suspects, in that order.

Despite GH stating he was going to be gone for a long weekend, and will be unable to defend himself, I think he is the best lynch today, barring further evidence.
lol WHAT

Oh golly gosh.

So from this I think that it definitely sets Barto as a higher scum suspect IMO.

Weirdly keeping a lot of lynch avenues open and in addition to that he obviously poisoned me (a villager) so meh. I wasn't scummy at all day 1 so it could have been an easy way to get rid of a villager.

Either way, in this progression of posts I really don't think there's anything that saves him or makes him seem like a villager at all.

With the last post, Logic could easily be a partner.

Kinda put off by how the lynch is seeming to revolve around GH/Champ.

Blech.

MORE POSTS INC.

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Manasi 18:06 05-28-2017
Originally Posted by novice:
That's remarkably crappy logic now that I've had my coffee. Zack as scum and GH as town is certainly a possibility. But given that GH's scumminess is largely dependent on Zack being scum it makes little sense to lynch GH first.
Uhhh. Why does it depend on Zack? GH and Chox hardly associated with each other and GH hasn't been around much since zack has started playing. Can you help me understand this?

Originally Posted by Montmorency:
Play the game.
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
This is a funny progression.

Zack came ITT and immediately (well..) jumped into the game and started rereading. He's arguably already done more solving being in the game for like 14 hours than most people have in three days (myself included). I think telling him to play the game and then proceeding to have very terse and seemingly fluff/useless responses isn't a good look. Something that's making me lean scum on you especially because it comes off as though you expect us to read you as a villager because you're playing well but in reality ?????


Originally Posted by novice:
Or rather: Because of GH stating he was going to be gone for a long weekend, and unable to defend himself, he is the best lynch today, barring further evidence.

To clarify, he deliberately created chaos on a day where he wouldn't be around to defend.

Vote: GeneralHankerchief
STOP ANALYZING THINGS LIKE THIS. Omg. This is bad. GH is a great player (from what I've seen) and this is in no way reality. Voting and ghosting isn't a strategy and you shouldn't jump to this being the proper conclusion.

AHHH.




Okay.

In addition to my last post where I was prioritizing Barto as scum, I don't think Monty has much going for him either. I suppose it'll switch around a bit as the day continues but I've only read the two-ish pages from today. I'll try to reread the majority of the game and figure some more out to either strengthen some scum reads or make me re-evaluate, but right now I'm comfortable in Barto/Mont scum.



I do still think novice/Zack/SV/GH/Csargo are villagers so should be fine running with that for a while.
@Champ IS an easy mislynch but it would be great if he started posting more.

Pretty easy to determine his alignment if he actually posts lel.

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Manasi 18:07 05-28-2017
People plz get ITT so we can chat it's boring talking to a wall


sos

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Champ 18:07 05-28-2017
Originally Posted by Logic:
GH and Champ are my top suspects, in that order.

Despite GH stating he was going to be gone for a long weekend, and will be unable to defend himself, I think he is the best lynch today, barring further evidence.

Vote: GeneralHankerchief
this is terrible
Unvote: Manasi
Vote:Logic


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Champ 18:08 05-28-2017
wait novice said that
Unvote: Logic
Vote: Novice


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Champ 18:09 05-28-2017
Brain are you ok?
Unvote: Novice
Vote: Logic


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Manasi 18:11 05-28-2017
champ have you read anything

stop voting and start posting plz

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Champ 18:12 05-28-2017
logic is lock wolf

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Manasi 18:15 05-28-2017
Originally Posted by Champ:
logic is lock wolf
why

more than that one post please

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Champ 18:17 05-28-2017
Originally Posted by Logic:
I meant to reply to you: I may not completely get your actions, but you are far from a lock scum to me. There are others that are far more likely to be scum than you are.
how many wolf reads do you have?

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Champ 18:19 05-28-2017
Originally Posted by Logic:
GH and Champ are my top suspects, in that order.

Despite GH stating he was going to be gone for a long weekend, and will be unable to defend himself, I think he is the best lynch today, barring further evidence.

Vote: GeneralHankerchief
also this might be the first time he mentioned me
but im not 100% sure bc the search function is shit

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Champ 18:21 05-28-2017
ok he has mentioned me

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Champ 18:22 05-28-2017
where the fuck did that post go

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Zack 18:25 05-28-2017
sup chump

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Manasi 18:28 05-28-2017
PEOPLE R HERE

hi

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Zack 18:32 05-28-2017
good posts manasi

idk why you keep saying I reread the thread when it was my first time reading it

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Montmorency 18:37 05-28-2017
Originally Posted by Manasi:
This is bad logic and you should not be proud of yourself for it.
Which part? The chaos-read or the push for lynch regardless? I like both.

Originally Posted by Manasi:
Zack came ITT and immediately (well..) jumped into the game and started rereading. He's arguably already done more solving being in the game for like 14 hours than most people have in three days (myself included). I think telling him to play the game and then proceeding to have very terse and seemingly fluff/useless responses isn't a good look. Something that's making me lean scum on you especially because it comes off as though you expect us to read you as a villager because you're playing well but in reality ?????
Zack made two reads posts, the first of which I disagreed with, and asked a few questions of various people. He's not reached his peak yet.

I've said plenty of GH, and commented on Barto. Since I don't know what to do with the rest of you, I'm fine staying the course.

Chill out.

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