Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
OK, let's talk for a moment about Nazi "barbarism".

Nazi Germany was a highly advanced, ordered, cultured, and in some ways "progressive" society. Nazi Scientists identified the "Jews" as a distinct race within Germany who refused to integrate into the Reich, confirming their Leader's suspicion about these people. Nazi engineers and planners then came up with a typically German (logical and efficient) way of solving this problem.

That solution which we call "The Holocaust" was, in fact, mechanised culling of a type actually far more humane than methods we use for pest control in the modern day - see discussion of the downsides of shooting foxes.

The point is, and this is essential, is that only a Civilised Nation could have done what the Nazi's did, both morally as well as technologically a pre-Enlightenment society would have been incapable of such "barbarity" because, at the end, the Nazi's were actually the polar opposite of barbarians.
I understand that you are attempting to make a subtle point of culture and definition. However it's totally misguided in this case in both subject matter and historical reality. You urgently need to read more about the eastern front and the genocide.

The idea that barbarism refers only to a particular "style" of cruelty, horror and brutality is a dead end argument in this context, and hints at a coldness and lack of humanity that you need to look into.