Second Terrorist Attack on London Bridge

[Pannonian]

Is it possible to act in advance, political-correctness will always win

It's not a matter of PC. It's a matter of knowing what information is useful and relevant, and which is not. One of the neighbours have now said that he'd had a conversation with one of the attackers about his (the neighbour's) van, what it was like, etc. It struck him as a little odd at the time, but not in any particular way. It's only in hindsight that he understood what the conversation was about. We have enough data. We need better expertise in profiling what data is useful and what is not.

[Fragony]

It's not a matter of PC. It's a matter of knowing what information is useful and relevant, and which is not. One of the neighbours have now said that he'd had a conversation with one of the attackers about his (the neighbour's) van, what it was like, etc. It struck him as a little odd at the time, but not in any particular way. It's only in hindsight that he understood what the conversation was about. We have enough data. We need better expertise in profiling what data is useful and what is not.

That sounds really sound but when will political correction stop making that really hard @last line

[Pannonian]

That sounds really sound but when will political correction stop making that really hard @last line

Do you have any evidence that PC attitudes stopped police from detecting these attacks? If not, then note that there is evidence that the police are overloaded with information and couldn't filter them. Note that I've gone off about Britain's faultists ignoring evidence in favour of their own explanation which doesn't need evidence. I'll refer the same arguments to you if that's what your anti-PC argument is about.

[Fragony]

Do you have any evidence that PC attitudes stopped police from detecting these attacks? If not, then note that there is evidence that the police are overloaded with information and couldn't filter them. Note that I've gone off about Britain's faultists ignoring evidence in favour of their own explanation which doesn't need evidence. I'll refer the same arguments to you if that's what your anti-PC argument is about.

Not terrorism specifically but a major sex-case in England was pc'd, police was just too scared to act. Afraid of pc

[Beskar]

Not terrorism specifically but a major sex-case in England was pc'd, police was just too scared to act. Afraid of pc

You are referring to Rochdale. There is a TV series on it (3 episodes) called Three Girls recently. I would recommend watching it.
For those located in the UK, can access it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...es-1-episode-1

One of the bigger reported failings was apparently more to do with Victim Blaming (Poor, Council Dwelling, 'Scum of Society') than the PC-ing of accusations against the Pakistan-British perpetrators, though there might be elements of that too.

[Pannonian]

Not terrorism specifically but a major sex-case in England was pc'd, police was just too scared to act. Afraid of pc

This isn't that case though. Nor is it operationally related. Or strategically. There have been other sex case cover ups too, involving the BBC entertainment wing among other institutions. But these institutions have largely been cleaned up, and I'm confident enough that further cases will be dealt with competently. So, what does your cited example have to do with this?

[Fragony]

This isn't that case though. Nor is it operationally related. Or strategically. There have been other sex case cover ups too, involving the BBC entertainment wing among other institutions. But these institutions have largely been cleaned up, and I'm confident enough that further cases will be dealt with competently. So, what does your cited example have to do with this?

Same point, political correctness

[Pannonian]

Same point, political correctness

Do you have any evidence that PC attitudes factor into this particular case?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

It's not a matter of PC. It's a matter of knowing what information is useful and relevant, and which is not. One of the neighbours have now said that he'd had a conversation with one of the attackers about his (the neighbour's) van, what it was like, etc. It struck him as a little odd at the time, but not in any particular way. It's only in hindsight that he understood what the conversation was about. We have enough data. We need better expertise in profiling what data is useful and what is not.

Good post. Always an issue with this, especially since the other side is well aware that extra noise adds to the confusion.