Qatar vs all others

[Husar]

Comments under the video? Are you serious? Again forgot about troll factory?
1. The boy was taken to the police department. It is not an arrest, it's detainment. Does it really make any difference? Doesn't it attempt to put a smoke screen over the real issue - the way the police treated a harmless nerdy kid?
2. The police stated that it was for begging (they needed some justification, didn't they?), but he was not. He was reciting Hamlet's monologue in Arbat street - a place in Moscow traditionally full of artists, performers and other acting people and his STEPmother was filming him. Can it be taken for begging, especially when she was trying to protest the detainment? How come other people with similar activities were not detained on similar charges?
3. I don't know about the intentions of the person who published the video (neither do "the commentators", don't they?), but it is genuine and it shows the realities of present day Russia. If it doesn't reflect a great credit on the authorities of the said country, is it the fault of the video or its author?

For a troll factory, a single comment on a comment seems a little light, though I didn't read all the comments.
When the police arrest him, the boy has a yellow bag or hat or whatever that he may have put in front of him to collect money. The part of the video that shows him reciting is so far zoomed in that the surroundings cannot be seen, it tells us nothing other than that he was talking about something. That I don't understand what they're all saying in Russian is not helping either way.

If you say other artists there were not arrested for similar things, perhaps that is because they weren't begging? Also everyone who ever heard about Cinderella knows that evil step mothers make their step children work hard. Of course she was protesting since she will have to work herself if she can't send the boy anymore.

And why would you expect me to believe everything anti-Putin at face value and assume "troll factory" every time someone says it's made up? That's like creating one's own echo chamber.

[Dâriûsh]

So apparently, there is concern in the Gulf countries that a coalition of Saud, United Arab Emirates, and Egypt will invade Qatar very soon.

Then of course, this happened:

“Turkish troops are coming to Qatar for the sake of the security of the entire region,” Qatari Foreign Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani said in Doha on June 8 while briefing the press on the recent crisis.

In addition, Turkish gendarmes will train Qatari forces, approved under another deal between the two countries’ interior ministries in December 2015.

[Gilrandir]

I'm ok with the risk of Delhi belly if it means trying out different foods from different cultures. Although they'll be getting their ingredients from the local (British) market, so it's more like rummy tummy.

I don't mean the diseases obtained AFTER EATING outlandish food. I figuratively referred to negative sides of bringing a large amount of people from all corners of the world to another country - from aggressive culture to, well, actual diseases.

For a troll factory, a single comment on a comment seems a little light, though I didn't read all the comments.
When the police arrest him, the boy has a yellow bag or hat or whatever that he may have put in front of him to collect money. The part of the video that shows him reciting is so far zoomed in that the surroundings cannot be seen, it tells us nothing other than that he was talking about something. That I don't understand what they're all saying in Russian is not helping either way.

If you say other artists there were not arrested for similar things, perhaps that is because they weren't begging? Also everyone who ever heard about Cinderella knows that evil step mothers make their step children work hard. Of course she was protesting since she will have to work herself if she can't send the boy anymore.

And why would you expect me to believe everything anti-Putin at face value and assume "troll factory" every time someone says it's made up?

But you believed one single comment? Even if he was begging - is it the way policemen should treat harmless kids?

But I guess you are resorting to playing devils advocate just for the plain fun of it. And if you really mean it - well, you are entitiled to believe what you like. It seems it is easier for you to believe in cruel stepmothers (that it was not his mother you somehow believed without any additional proofs, didn't you?) than in groundlessly cruel law inforcement bodies in Russia.

I wish you could follow a furious internet discussion of the accident. By Russians, that is - for you to be absolutely sure it wasn't anti-Putin lip service by disgruntled Ukrainians.

[Pannonian]

I don't mean the diseases obtained AFTER EATING outlandish food. I figuratively referred to negative sides of bringing a large amount of people from all corners of the world to another country - from aggressive culture to, well, actual diseases.

Much of post-medieval English/British history is shaped by foreign foods and other stuff. Take the British Empire for instance, which came about because of the trade of an addictive substance between Britain and China.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Tea.

[Gilrandir]

Much of post-medieval English/British history is shaped by foreign foods and other stuff. Take the British Empire for instance, which came about because of the trade of an addictive substance between Britain and China.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Tea.

So you will have to put up with this "other stuff" if you want to continue your gastronomic trips to Soho. One can't have only the best of other cultures without facing unintended adverse consequences of importing them.

[Pannonian]

So you will have to put up with this "other stuff" if you want to continue your gastronomic trips to Soho. One can't have only the best of other cultures without facing unintended adverse consequences of importing them.

We had the gastronomy in the past without the aggressive religion. Go back 25 years and Islam wasn't an issue in the UK. Just another religion in a country which did not want "windows into the souls of men". Even now, other cultures pose nowhere near the same problems as modern Islamism.

It's a pity that Pakistan is no longer defined by subcontinental culture: food, cricket, music, films, etc. AFAIK there was a fair bit of crossover between Indian (Hindi?) street slang and Urdu. Instead, Pakistan is increasingly defined by Islam, and the most extreme interpretations of it at that. I used to admire the more devout Muslims in the Pakistan team. I now think they're indicative of more poisonous trends in their society. Rather than religion inspiring wide boys to clean up their lives, now people are afraid to criticise religion in society, as open criticism results in lynchings.

[Husar]

But you believed one single comment? Even if he was begging - is it the way policemen should treat harmless kids?

But I guess you are resorting to playing devils advocate just for the plain fun of it. And if you really mean it - well, you are entitiled to believe what you like. It seems it is easier for you to believe in cruel stepmothers (that it was not his mother you somehow believed without any additional proofs, didn't you?) than in groundlessly cruel law inforcement bodies in Russia.

I wish you could follow a furious internet discussion of the accident. By Russians, that is - for you to be absolutely sure it wasn't anti-Putin lip service by disgruntled Ukrainians.

Believe is a strong word, if the shrugging smiley signals a belief to you, you might want to take a class on interpreting expressions.
Israeli policemen shoot kids because kids ain't harmless and Israel are the Good Guys™.

And you're the one who mentioned it was his stepmother, am I to assume you're a liar?

The point was that it's hard to know what happened for sure, at least for me. That Russian police are rather brutal is not news, it's an integral part of the wonderfully colourful Russian culture. If we can be allies with Saudi Arabia, where his (step-)mother wouldn't even be allowed to drive a car, then that is surely not an argument against loving Russia.

[Dâriûsh]

Can we change the title of this thread to Qatar and maybe Turkey (except Turkey won’t quarrel with Saud), and perhaps supported by Iran vs Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Sisi’s Egypt – featuring US military personnel on both sides – also featuring special guest star the amazing silent Pakistan - also also featuring spicy food and kids in Russia?

[AE Bravo]

I'd like some of the veterans to chime in here. Am I crazy or does Pannonian tend to argue against himself? The discussion was shifted away from hotspots towards the states concerned with this topic yet he keeps bringing them up like I am supposed to be accountable to all these traumatized countries neither I nor the parties in the subject of this topic have much in common with.

I just want to know if I'm wasting my time responding here. Not interested in arguing in circles.

Libya, Syria, Pakistan, what's your point? Am I supposed to blame Britain for Trump using the attacks in the UK as an opportunity to influence its immigration laws?

Yes Pakistan is a hellhole but why is the Gulf made up of a massive Pakistani migrant population? Use your common sense. Not everybody fleeing Islamism goes to the UK.

[Pannonian]

I'd like some of the veterans to chime in here. Am I crazy or does Pannonian tend to argue against himself? The discussion was shifted away from hotspots towards the states concerned with this topic yet he keeps bringing them up like I am supposed to be accountable to all these traumatized countries neither I nor the parties in the subject of this topic have much in common with.

I just want to know if I'm wasting my time responding here. Not interested in arguing in circles.

Libya, Syria, Pakistan, what's your point? Am I supposed to blame Britain for Trump using the attacks in the UK as an opportunity to influence its immigration laws?

Blame? All I'm asking for is for the UK to have less to do with these countries that primarily identify themselves as Muslim, as we've had problems with people who identify themselves as Muslim over the Britain that they live in. Or aren't we allowed to have less to do with other countries now?

Hell, the UK voted in 2016 to regain control of its borders, at the risk of a significant economic price. Should we harden our borders with the EU, but leave the border open for Muslim countries as Showtime plainly thinks we should?

[AE Bravo]

That is not what I think at all. I agree with you that the UK should not involve itself into any mess abroad.