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    Quote Originally Posted by novice View Post
    IGR?
    What was the thing you wanted to pursue in the next phase?
    Catching up


    In game read, before the Pizza flinch you were my top town read. I stated in my ISO breakdown of you while ISOing you the framing was convenient. I was very conflicted over that lynch primarily because I had given you both major town cred that phase. I felt a lynch on you taught us more, but my read had been stronger for longer on you, and Cuth made the case about effort always being a part of Pizza's meta.


    I mentioned it later when Monty mentioned Logic, I had some issue with Logic's post and progression from day 2 that I wanted to explore, and I hadn't seen anyone else mention him and I didn't have the energy or didn't think it was the right time to build a case against someone who was a mostly null read for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
    Catching up


    In game read, before the Pizza flinch you were my top town read. I stated in my ISO breakdown of you while ISOing you the framing was convenient. I was very conflicted over that lynch primarily because I had given you both major town cred that phase. I felt a lynch on you taught us more, but my read had been stronger for longer on you, and Cuth made the case about effort always being a part of Pizza's meta.


    I mentioned it later when Monty mentioned Logic, I had some issue with Logic's post and progression from day 2 that I wanted to explore, and I hadn't seen anyone else mention him and I didn't have the energy or didn't think it was the right time to build a case against someone who was a mostly null read for everyone.
    Can you read all of auto's TWO POSTS

    and tell me how you feel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manasi View Post
    Can you read all of auto's TWO POSTS

    and tell me how you feel
    Auto's a problem, don't know if he's necessarily a day phase problem, if his existence persists beyond the next few phases then yeah we'd have to lynch him before a theoretical lylo, Pizza almost lock clearing him after an extremely early vote on novice that felt jokey is part of the reason I sided with Novice in the great Day 2 Thunderdome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
    Auto's a problem, don't know if he's necessarily a day phase problem, if his existence persists beyond the next few phases then yeah we'd have to lynch him before a theoretical lylo, Pizza almost lock clearing him after an extremely early vote on novice that felt jokey is part of the reason I sided with Novice in the great Day 2 Thunderdome.
    So you're just suggesting we leave him open for a vig or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manasi View Post
    So you're just suggesting we leave him open for a vig or something?
    Or something, just feels like an unproductive lynch after D2.

    I'm at a weird crossroads with inactive lynching. How many games in Champs were ruined by allowing them to skate? Then you get stuck having to decide with them in Lylo situations, it's just a mess. But if there's better information to be had, I still want to go for those lynches. I think the window for inactive lynching is day 1, maybe I'm overthinking it, but I'm having a crisis of faith over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
    Or something, just feels like an unproductive lynch after D2.

    I'm at a weird crossroads with inactive lynching. How many games in Champs were ruined by allowing them to skate? Then you get stuck having to decide with them in Lylo situations, it's just a mess. But if there's better information to be had, I still want to go for those lynches. I think the window for inactive lynching is day 1, maybe I'm overthinking it, but I'm having a crisis of faith over it.
    Why didn't you push for it then? Unless I'm misunderstanding.

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    vote: bsmith

    i feel like manasi/sooh could have one and novice could be one

    but at the same time

    i think smith's vote and subsequent explanation look worse

    i

    i really dunno right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manasi View Post
    Why didn't you push for it then? Unless I'm misunderstanding.
    Because I had a read on Barto and voted him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manasi View Post
    Why didn't you push for it then? Unless I'm misunderstanding.
    And no, I don't know what to do with them. That's what the whole point was, I'm softening on not wanting to lynch them I guess, but at a certain point not only are they a detriment to solving the game but for the enjoyment also...so just a massive shrug I guess.

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    Kind of nuts that everyone's willing to lynch list is so large at this point, frustrating, until I realize that my willing to lynch list is rather large as well.

    Still rather high on Cuth, not just because I agreed with the logic, I don't think pushing the lynch on a town Pizza is a scum play there. Even if he's a masterful scum, it's a tough sell. Right now the Manasi/Sooh fight feels more like w/v then the Pizza novice really ever did. I haven't given either of them any serious town cred up til this point, and there hasn't been a ton of reason to change that.

    I will say Sooh's recent post about Manasi not knowing the vote count when she voted, basically defending Manasi for being voted for the wrong reason reads rather town to me. I don't know if I'd give credit myself to Manasi on that point now, but the fact that Sooh is at least providing a plausible explanation for that vote even though they've been at each other for 3 phases would bring me to town lean Sooh more then Manasi.

    The Novice/Pizza Thunderdome just feel like it lacks closure. Novice just tarnished too much in my eyes at this point, fairly or unfairly (because a lot of it was through no fault of his own). Is it a good reason to lynch someone...no (maybe?), just feels like unfinished business.

    Barto...don't know what to do with him. Haven't seen reason to town read him and he's rather boisterous, but aside from people throwing his name out for lynch candidate, there doesn't seem to be any traction on him. So either all those mentions are parroting/distancing or people just don't feel as strongly as they say they do.

    BSmith: His vote is the worst of anyone's for me. It doesn't feel right that a low poster would have that much of an impact on an outcome of a big lynch. It feels like the vote was being directed. It's too beneficially timed and beneficially scum to be made on his own when he hasn't been able to pay much attention to the game to this point and the Pizza v Novice debate was a very content heavy one. Could be an apology patsy vote. It wasn't last second but it did build the distribution to at least make a Pizza lynch more likely.

    Logic: It's strange that this feels like a POE thing, I can't put him in my town core, and I have reasons for not wanting to put him in my town core, however he's far from the scummiest person on my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
    Kind of nuts that everyone's willing to lynch list is so large at this point, frustrating, until I realize that my willing to lynch list is rather large as well.

    Still rather high on Cuth, not just because I agreed with the logic, I don't think pushing the lynch on a town Pizza is a scum play there. Even if he's a masterful scum, it's a tough sell. Right now the Manasi/Sooh fight feels more like w/v then the Pizza novice really ever did. I haven't given either of them any serious town cred up til this point, and there hasn't been a ton of reason to change that.

    I will say Sooh's recent post about Manasi not knowing the vote count when she voted, basically defending Manasi for being voted for the wrong reason reads rather town to me. I don't know if I'd give credit myself to Manasi on that point now, but the fact that Sooh is at least providing a plausible explanation for that vote even though they've been at each other for 3 phases would bring me to town lean Sooh more then Manasi.

    The Novice/Pizza Thunderdome just feel like it lacks closure. Novice just tarnished too much in my eyes at this point, fairly or unfairly (because a lot of it was through no fault of his own). Is it a good reason to lynch someone...no (maybe?), just feels like unfinished business.

    Barto...don't know what to do with him. Haven't seen reason to town read him and he's rather boisterous, but aside from people throwing his name out for lynch candidate, there doesn't seem to be any traction on him. So either all those mentions are parroting/distancing or people just don't feel as strongly as they say they do.

    BSmith: His vote is the worst of anyone's for me. It doesn't feel right that a low poster would have that much of an impact on an outcome of a big lynch. It feels like the vote was being directed. It's too beneficially timed and beneficially scum to be made on his own when he hasn't been able to pay much attention to the game to this point and the Pizza v Novice debate was a very content heavy one. Could be an apology patsy vote. It wasn't last second but it did build the distribution to at least make a Pizza lynch more likely.

    Logic: It's strange that this feels like a POE thing, I can't put him in my town core, and I have reasons for not wanting to put him in my town core, however he's far from the scummiest person on my mind.
    I like this post by Fred, actually. His not understanding my gameplay style is natural, and why would scum!Fredwood point out BSmith's behaviour when there were still many players to slander if need be?
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