XCOM Mafia [Concluded]

[Winston Hughes]

@Cuth

What do you think of Logic and Manasi?

[Cuthillius]

@Cuth

What do you think of Logic and Manasi?

no real thought on logic, though gun to head probably town, i KINDA like manasi as of right now but it's like

super thin

and i'm super bad at reading her

as evidenced by recent events

so /shrug

oh @Logic to you in particular

you're improving at mafia

your gameplay is up a couple steps already from your first games here/on cfc

good to see :)

[Cuthillius]

csargo, novice, winston

what are your thoughts on crimson

[novice]

csargo, novice, winston

what are your thoughts on crimson

Still reading him as town.

[Cuthillius]

Still reading him as town.

talk to me about that, please

[novice]

talk to me about that, please

Standard stuff - good tone, seems solvy, no hint at hidden agendas or artificial tunneling.

What do you see?

[Cuthillius]

Standard stuff - good tone, seems solvy, no hint at hidden agendas or artificial tunneling.

What do you see?

ok thanks

not much, really

a lot of posts, not much content

this means pretty much nothing

[Csargo]

I don't know what a thunderdome is Cuth. Sounds fancy. I wasn't going to vote you, I meant argue.

Also, you're acting as if I haven't considered anyone else or my entire phase has been tunnelling Dp101, and it hasn't. I've posted thoughts on the game, the other players. Less so.

How much weight should I put on those better posts? I think I've taken a perfectly balanced approach, but you just disagree with it. I still don't have a better candidate. More later.

[novice]

Tally may or may not be correct.
Night all.

Lynch votes
3 votes: Csargo (Dp101, Cuthillius, novice)
2 votes: Champ (Manasi, crimson_snow)
2 votes: Dp101 (Csargo, El Barto)
1 votes: Manasi (Champ)
1 votes: Novice (autolycus)
1 votes: Sooh (BSmith)
1 votes: Pizza (Montmorency)
1 votes: El Barto (Fredwood)
1 votes: Unvote (Logic)
1 votes: Montmorency (Jowy)
1 votes: Jowy (Askthepizzaguy)

Voting history:

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Manasi

Champ

No Lynch

Fredwood

Dp101

No Lynch

Askthepizzaguy

crimson_snow

Askthepizzaguy

Novice

Novice

Winston Hughes

Autolycus

Sooh

Manasi

Pizza

El barto

ATPG

Dp101

dp101

Cuthillius

El Barto

Dp101

Csargo

monty

El Barto

Cuthilius

Unvote

Montmorency

Jowy

Champ

csargo

Csargo

[crimson_snow]

Tally may or may not be correct.
Night all.

Lynch votes
3 votes: Csargo (Dp101, Cuthillius, novice)
2 votes: Champ (Manasi, crimson_snow)
2 votes: Dp101 (Csargo, El Barto)
1 votes: Manasi (Champ)
1 votes: Novice (autolycus)
1 votes: Sooh (BSmith)
1 votes: Pizza (Montmorency)
1 votes: El Barto (Fredwood)
1 votes: Unvote (Logic)
1 votes: Montmorency (Jowy)
1 votes: Jowy (Askthepizzaguy)

Voting history:

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Lots of players on here that I don't have much of an impression of.

Sooh, Unvote, Montmorency, BSmith, Autolycus

[Cuthillius]

I don't know what a thunderdome is Cuth. Sounds fancy. I wasn't going to vote you, I meant argue.

Also, you're acting as if I haven't considered anyone else or my entire phase has been tunnelling Dp101, and it hasn't. I've posted thoughts on the game, the other players. Less so.

How much weight should I put on those better posts? I think I've taken a perfectly balanced approach, but you just disagree with it. I still don't have a better candidate. More later.

ignore that then

it's mostly been that, you've mentioned a few other people as consideration but apparently are scumreading DP SO highly that you're not even considering anyone else

look, you quoted those posts, yeah? i don't see how those outweigh the many towny posts he's made

there are a few posts that are scummy

they're not even that scummy

but you are acting like they are, and bringing them up like they're worth more than they are

it COULD just be that i vastly disagree with you, but that just seems

wrong or off or something

but i just see a massive discrepancy between your stated confidence in your reads and the basis you're grounding them on

[Csargo]

ignore that then

it's mostly been that, you've mentioned a few other people as consideration but apparently are scumreading DP SO highly that you're not even considering anyone else

look, you quoted those posts, yeah? i don't see how those outweigh the many towny posts he's made

there are a few posts that are scummy

they're not even that scummy

but you are acting like they are, and bringing them up like they're worth more than they are

it COULD just be that i vastly disagree with you, but that just seems

wrong or off or something

but i just see a massive discrepancy between your stated confidence in your reads and the basis you're grounding them on

Clearly we just view it differently. I don't view the townie posts with a huge amount of weight, especially after being pressured, because if Dp101 is a skilled player, and I think he is, it's not terribly hard to fake early on. So yeah I don't think it's unreasonable to view him in the way that I am. You can lynch me for it, but I've not seen anything convincing enough to definitively say he's town.

I just disagree with you on a fundamental level. That's a terrible reason to vote for someone though imo.

[Winston Hughes]

In the plus column, crimson seems confident and solvey. Thought process on DP101 is plausible. Reaction to El Barto is standard townie fare (from someone who doesn't know the takster).

In the minus column, the 'roleclaim will clear me' bit and other interactions with pizza remind me of scum games in my own back catalogue.

Overall, I'm leaning town atm.

[Cuthillius]

In the plus column, crimson seems confident and solvey. Thought process on DP101 is plausible. Reaction to El Barto is standard townie fare (from someone who doesn't know the takster).

In the minus column, the 'roleclaim will clear me' bit and other interactions with pizza remind me of scum games in my own back catalogue.

Overall, I'm leaning town atm.

ok thanks

[crimson_snow]

I don't disagree that Champ isn't a super informative lynch, though I do think he's pretty likely to just be a wolf. Vote may or may not end the day there, just I don't like the contrast between his excitement and enthusiasm early to his complete and utter lack of attempting to figure out the alignment of players.

[Manasi]

Sup scrubs.

Winston, just thought it was a natural/seamless entrance that wasn't forced etc.

[Manasi]

HERE FOR A CHAMP LYNCH

[crimson_snow]

I don't disagree that Champ isn't a super informative lynch, though I do think he's pretty likely to just be a wolf. Vote may or may not end the day there, just I don't like the contrast between his excitement and enthusiasm early to his complete and utter lack of attempting to figure out the alignment of players.

I'm saying the curtain doesn't match the drapes, you feel?

The progression of:

>Excitement! Enthusiasm! Woo, game start!

to

>...Nah, not going to actually play it though

Doesn't feel like a town mindset at all.

[crimson_snow]

Carpet. Shit. Whatever mixing up metaphors is how I roll, it's icing on the gravy.

[Jowy]

I'm saying the curtain doesn't match the drapes, you feel?

The progression of:

>Excitement! Enthusiasm! Woo, game start!

to

>...Nah, not going to actually play it though

Doesn't feel like a town mindset at all.

"Roll wolf, sub out" is a common saying for a reason :P

[Dp101]

I don't disagree that Champ isn't a super informative lynch, though I do think he's pretty likely to just be a wolf. Vote may or may not end the day there, just I don't like the contrast between his excitement and enthusiasm early to his complete and utter lack of attempting to figure out the alignment of players.

I'd love to say that this behaviour, coming from champ, is atypical of an average game of his, but unfortunately, this isn't uncommon enough from him to easily write him off as frozen.

[crimson_snow]

I'd love to say that this behaviour, coming from champ, is atypical of an average game of his, but unfortunately, this isn't uncommon enough from him to easily write him off as frozen.

Ah. That's unfortunate. Can you cite specific games where he had this kind of disparity between enthusiasm and...playing the game?