XCOM Mafia [Concluded]

[Manasi]

4 novice
4 pizza
3 Manasi

iirc. Don't worry, I won't let you down. I'll save you promise.

I don't like either of the other wagons though.


Wsfahuifqhweg.

[Csargo]

No, they're not particularly great. novice probably the best out of the three imo.

[Cuthillius]

No, they're not particularly great. novice probably the best out of the three imo.

while i'm addressing your bit, do you want to talk to me about my case on novicetown

convince me i'm wrong?

[Csargo]

while i'm addressing your bit, do you want to talk to me about my case on novicetown

convince me i'm wrong?

Yeah, I'll go back and find it.

Oh yes, 4-3-3 with Bsmith's vote after my tally, I missed that.

:P

[Fredwood]

Hi I went to a birthday and got more drunk on Whiskey and Icecream then I was planning to, but I'll try to be lucid.

Anyone got a vote count?

I'm not really liking Manasi lynch if only cus I don't learn anything.

The other 3 I have issues with

Novice: cus I don't want to doubt my IGR on him
Pizza: cus I'd be sheeping the meta
Bart: cus I don't want to tunnel.

Cuth and I are melding, and if he sites the Pizza Meta as enough to lynch him I guess I can get behind the Pizza lynch I guess. I do think I have something I want to pursue for the next phase though.

[Cuthillius]

Hi I went to a birthday and got more drunk on Whiskey and Icecream then I was planning to, but I'll try to be lucid.

Anyone got a vote count?

I'm not really liking Manasi lynch if only cus I don't learn anything.

The other 3 I have issues with

Novice: cus I don't want to doubt my IGR on him
Pizza: cus I'd be sheeping the meta
Bart: cus I don't want to tunnel.

Cuth and I are melding, and if he sites the Pizza Meta as enough to lynch him I guess I can get behind the Pizza lynch I guess. I do think I have something I want to pursue for the next phase though.

i'm not reading pizza scum for META, but rather for inconsistencies in pov/actions

no idea about meta tbh, it's all over the place

last i heard votecount was 4-3-3 novice/pizza/manasi

[Fredwood]

i'm not reading pizza scum for META, but rather for inconsistencies in pov/actions

no idea about meta tbh, it's all over the place

last i heard votecount was 4-3-3 novice/pizza/manasi

I meant with in specifics to his effort, you said it's within his scum meta to put in that effort.

I'm scumrreading him for many of the same things you were, just I was having a hard time reconciling the tonal read I had on some of his posts that read as excitement to me and the amount of effort he's putting into the game, even in light of the somewhat manipulated ISO's

[Fredwood]

i'm not reading pizza scum for META, but rather for inconsistencies in pov/actions

no idea about meta tbh, it's all over the place

last i heard votecount was 4-3-3 novice/pizza/manasi

Also

Vote: Pizza I don't like that distribution at all.

[Cuthillius]

dp what are your thoughts on the gh slot?

[Dp101]

dp what are your thoughts on the gh slot?

Very, very awkward. Hopefully will improve post-promised reread of the game overnight.

[novice]

I'm not really liking Manasi lynch if only cus I don't learn anything.

The other 3 I have issues with

Novice: cus I don't want to doubt my IGR on him
Pizza: cus I'd be sheeping the meta
Bart: cus I don't want to tunnel.

Cuth and I are melding, and if he sites the Pizza Meta as enough to lynch him I guess I can get behind the Pizza lynch I guess. I do think I have something I want to pursue for the next phase though.

IGR?
What was the thing you wanted to pursue in the next phase?

[novice]

I'll have to continue tomorrow.

Vote: Logic, see post 1547 for reasons.

[Fredwood]

IGR?
What was the thing you wanted to pursue in the next phase?

Catching up


In game read, before the Pizza flinch you were my top town read. I stated in my ISO breakdown of you while ISOing you the framing was convenient. I was very conflicted over that lynch primarily because I had given you both major town cred that phase. I felt a lynch on you taught us more, but my read had been stronger for longer on you, and Cuth made the case about effort always being a part of Pizza's meta.


I mentioned it later when Monty mentioned Logic, I had some issue with Logic's post and progression from day 2 that I wanted to explore, and I hadn't seen anyone else mention him and I didn't have the energy or didn't think it was the right time to build a case against someone who was a mostly null read for everyone.

[Cuthillius]

that said a champ/generalhankerchief lynch would be my second choice in an ideal world

[Cuthillius]

ok

so i just grabbed some posts from a random page, 9 in this case

first off

Just reading the room since I had dinner and a nap, the climax of this day was my pushing Jowy and mentioning fredwood.

Neither one of them handled that push well.

Then, after I was gone, look at their behavior. You all let them go, and the tension all vanished.

Neither one of them did anything at all, really. Jowy's back on low-hanging fruit that won't fight back, and Freddo didn't do anything. Literally.

confirmed town/very likely town

focusing game on potential mislynches

on low-hanging fruit that won't fight back, as it were

In any case, time is basically up for a lot of people this round.

Sooh and I are not going to be around I'd imagine, just due to where we live on the earth.

A lot of people have already peaced out for the round, and many of them were my suspects, and those people looked super comfortable with the tally.

I think this is a mislynch or non-scum lynch in progress, just by reading the room.

I think those of us who are here need to throw our weight around and push a scum now.

If you're not following me then I need a scummy candidate I can lynch. And most of the folks with votes ain't cutting it.

"the people who are here, which include me, but not a bunch of my suspects

well, i thought my suspects looked comfortable with where votes where, so everyone here needs to cfd"

editor's note: this is cow feces

pulling up different mislynches

Csargo I'd lynch Jowy, Fredwood, Novice, and very few other people.

I gotta go. What's the call?

still looking at >confirmed town, probably town, probably town, ???

he's literally focusing the game

and i'm not saying that that'd never happen as town

just in this case IT IS ON TOWN

that is SOMETHING THAT IS SIGNIFICANT

he is giving out a level of confidence that is THIS BIG and pushing town, and focusing on people who are super towny, in particular people who aren't around, as he admitted himself, going into eod

this is not the towniest approach i've ever seen, but i don't know about you

Monty, you want to lynch an actual scumbag, one that would have been fine picking you off today, lynch Jowy.

You want to stop tinfoiling me? If I lynch a scum day one, you can call it bussing tomorrow. But a dead scum will still have happened.

Lynch me and I flip townie, and you'll never push Jowy because I've read the room and no one's paying attention.

important context: jowy was town

so here we have pizza offering two choices

either lynch scum and call it bussing

or lynch pizza and he's town and jowyscum will survive until endgame and ??nobody is paying attention??

first off, there are a couple of false claims in there, in particular that jowy was either scummy or actually scum, and that nobody was paying attention

in this case, there were several people actively trying not to lynch jowy, and being in the thread and trying to solve

this is unfounded

in addition, he never offers the option of jowy potentially being town

again, he doesn't want attention to go there

again, that could happen as town

again, it's a strange juxtaposition of confidence levels

either he's confident about his thoughts which are bad, so much so that he deliberately spends all his effort focusing everything on this small pool of towny people

or he's scum

And that's it.

It's 3am and I have school in a few hours.

I put in a monster day one and all my reads and suspicions are posted. There's also night chat, so you can ask me stuff before day 2 even happens.

But that's all I can do.

You remaining folks that need to have every little thing wrapped up in a bow aren't going to get it. Make a gutsy call.

Good night.

and now he calls it a gutsy call, rather than obviously lynching the obvious scum

he says look at the effort i did, look at me, ask me questions

he doesn't ever try to engage people, draw them out, unless it lines up with his agenda

and that's kinda pizza's mojo anyway

but

it just drips of insincerity and misdirection to me

[novice]

ok

so i just grabbed some posts from a random page, 9 in this case

first off

confirmed town/very likely town

focusing game on potential mislynches

on low-hanging fruit that won't fight back, as it were

"the people who are here, which include me, but not a bunch of my suspects

well, i thought my suspects looked comfortable with where votes where, so everyone here needs to cfd"

editor's note: this is cow feces

pulling up different mislynches

still looking at >confirmed town, probably town, probably town, ???

he's literally focusing the game

and i'm not saying that that'd never happen as town

just in this case IT IS ON TOWN

that is SOMETHING THAT IS SIGNIFICANT

he is giving out a level of confidence that is THIS BIG and pushing town, and focusing on people who are super towny, in particular people who aren't around, as he admitted himself, going into eod

this is not the towniest approach i've ever seen, but i don't know about you

important context: jowy was town

so here we have pizza offering two choices

either lynch scum and call it bussing

or lynch pizza and he's town and jowyscum will survive until endgame and ??nobody is paying attention??

first off, there are a couple of false claims in there, in particular that jowy was either scummy or actually scum, and that nobody was paying attention

in this case, there were several people actively trying not to lynch jowy, and being in the thread and trying to solve

this is unfounded

in addition, he never offers the option of jowy potentially being town

again, he doesn't want attention to go there

again, that could happen as town

again, it's a strange juxtaposition of confidence levels

either he's confident about his thoughts which are bad, so much so that he deliberately spends all his effort focusing everything on this small pool of towny people

or he's scum

and now he calls it a gutsy call, rather than obviously lynching the obvious scum

he says look at the effort i did, look at me, ask me questions

he doesn't ever try to engage people, draw them out, unless it lines up with his agenda

and that's kinda pizza's mojo anyway

but

it just drips of insincerity and misdirection to me

Reading this makes me want to lynch Pizza again. This was an honest case by Cuth.