Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Zack]

Ok I put Zack townish for now just for wall posting right after I wallposted!

Wallposting is not aligntment-indicative in itself

[Slaan]

Wallposting is not aligntment-indicative in itself

Very true, just thought it funny how there are tons of small posts over those 16 sites and then suddently bam, two wallposts in a row.

I also read your post just now and I agree with most of what you said so yea, I update your fun upgrade to town to a real townish read :)

[Zack]

I mean, I believe you gh

but I don't think you'd like about that regardless of your alignment

I guess it's just more about setting my expectations in this game for you. I got burned pretty hard in Pokemon, and outside of that I seem to always find something vaguely wolfy about you (e.g. the alias turbo where we called each other wolves until figuring it out at the very, very end).

I want to get better at reading you.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I mean, I believe you gh

but I don't think you'd like about that regardless of your alignment

I guess it's just more about setting my expectations in this game for you. I got burned pretty hard in Pokemon, and outside of that I seem to always find something vaguely wolfy about you (e.g. the alias turbo where we called each other wolves until figuring it out at the very, very end).

I want to get better at reading you.

If I knew I'd honestly tell you.

The past six months I've tried out so many different playstyles over a few different sites it feels like I'm Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder forgetting who his natural self is.

Sorry if that's a crappy answer. It does make me continue feel good about you though.

[Zack]

logic -- what do you think of the townreads kage has been getting?

[Logic]

logic -- what do you think of the townreads kage has been getting?

@Zack
Unless I missed something, only GH and Winston have given Kage a townread.

They seem to know him, whereas I recognize his name. I'm not putting a ton of stock into other's town reads just yet, but this gulf between myself and those 2 tells me either I am way off in my suspicions, or should be looking closer at all 3.

[Montmorency]

Note: Winston and Zack feel better individually as my responses below indicate, but this just elevates the possibility of m/m.

I feel like you posted this exact pic as mafia before in a similar situation.

I feel like you were more active at least slightly in your self-defense in X-Com, I guess I should re-read that.

People re: Csargo, but you can't really judge by last game's performance. He's currently low-energy baseline for Csargo and that has tended to be town.

And that gif was deployed in the Pokemon game, right? He was v engaged scum.

That's exactly what I'm saying. I think if it was an honest push on dp, the people making it would be roping me in as well and painting us with the same brush. Since I've pretty much escaped heat for it, I think the more likely explanation is that it's a calculated push designed to go after the person more likely to be mislynched (sorry dp).

Either that or it's just a lazy read in the first place because it's not a real read to begin with.

I wouldn't be so sure. After all, you are not literally DP, so your similar beheavior (not identical!) is placed in a different context. [reinoe addressed this]



@Winston

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

For starters, off the top of my head:

I've observed Zack being a somewhat relaxed version of his usual self, making me want to keep poking him until the cracks show.

I've observed pizza doing the kind of thing that tends to put him under suspicion on D1 as town, but with a certain knowingness about it that makes me question just how many layers he's working through.

I've observed Dp101 looking like his awkward townie self.

I've observed GH playing it cool, but giving hints of underlying reservation.

I agree with this.

This is pretty much exactly what I said about Csargo D1 in the last game, where he was town and I was scum.

Not sure how to feel about that.

You and Manasi were partners that game. But Manasi isn't you.

Either that, or he and Zack are scumbuddies (shades of Monty+pizza in Futuramafia?)

As long as Pizza and I are on the same team, we are undefeatable. Except in XCOM. And kind of French Revolution.

Kind of vulnerable against lone wolves, perhaps.

I've got positive vibes on both Manasi and Kage, both on first read and ISO.

Can't really explain why, though, so let's call it 'tonal' for the time being.

Kage's old-school nonchalant, but in old-school days that could easily be scum. In New Org days and ways, it's a towny presentation.

Just experience talking. As much as I want to keep pizza under pressure, I'm leery of actually lynching him because, historically, it's been a very bad move.

Don't lynch Pizza. He says the new rule of thumb is lynch him on D3, and if you couldn't lynch him that means you absolutely must lynch him D4. And if you can't lynch him D4, GG.

Very tempting, but there’s a tell he hasn’t dropped yet.

What's the tell that Pizza hasn't dropped yet?

No, I'm not saying logic is scum therefore zack is scum.

1. Logic is scum independently of Zack.

2. Zack has talked to everything that moves except logic. Therefore they're either masons/scum/neighbors. I stated this once already. Either way they're talking to each other OOT and thus have no reason to talk in thread.

3. Zack is scummy independent of Zack.

They are not necessarily scum together but somehow they are talking to each other.

Does this logic (lowercase) proceed specifically because Logic and Zack were not interacting and Zack had interacted with everyone else (not sure if that's actually the case at this point), or would it also apply to Logic? That is, if you analyzed all of Logic's interactions, would you find team-mates among the set of people he may not have interacted with?

I think reinoe could have sensed DP as someone he could push around and went for the throat. Kicking the puppy, as Renata and I think Monty have described it in the past. The level of being an abrasive, "I do what I want and I'm not nice about it!!!" feels overblown, like it's a performance. No person actually behaves like this unless it's an affectation.

Well, I think the DP analysis is insightful, but I don't know about "no person actually behaves like this"... Laughs aside, there was dicetosser in Representative Democracy. OTOH dicetosser was non-stop confrontational, so that consistency could be something to compare against reinoe later. As of now, reinoe fits well in the town-play mold of visitors like Severing Viper and a couple of other people.

I mean, I believe you gh

but I don't think you'd like about that regardless of your alignment

I guess it's just more about setting my expectations in this game for you. I got burned pretty hard in Pokemon, and outside of that I seem to always find something vaguely wolfy about you (e.g. the alias turbo where we called each other wolves until figuring it out at the very, very end).

I want to get better at reading you.

I tend to have a low-level desire to lynch GH, but I've gotten it wrong every time when that opportunity has presented itself. Then the one game I found the perfect tell, I couldn't seal the deal.

[Askthepizzaguy]

@Zack
Unless I missed something, only GH and Winston have given Kage a townread.

They seem to know him, whereas I recognize his name. I'm not putting a ton of stock into other's town reads just yet, but this gulf between myself and those 2 tells me either I am way off in my suspicions, or should be looking closer at all 3.

Logic is trapped and unable to move very much. All that's left is to attack the piece until it runs out of space, now.

I can read Logic better than all of you guys, imo. He was lock town last time and he's midnight black here.