Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
Also, I dislike the way Winston has danced around the DP read. Doesn't seem to actually be digging in for a read there, just throwing out stuff based on how the winds sound -- look at 451/453, he instantly changes from dangling out the w/w read to just saying, I agree with slaan, it's v/v. Then in 456 his explanation of why people are townreading DP reads like he's trying to subtly dismiss it as bad reasoning.
I don't think it is bad reasoning. I'm townreading him for that reason myself, as I don't think he could easily simulate that awkward tone so well without risking going too far with it.

As for the w/w bit, I was very clear that it was unlikely.

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Also on Winston -- he called Kage town for no reason afaict (maybe protecting a partner?),
I said the same about Manasi, and I stand by it. The read is pure gut, and I was totally clear on that. How you can read it as 'protecting', I have no idea. At best it could be taken as justification for not voting in that direction, and if it ever came to the point where I needed to justify such a decision then it would clearly be completely inadequate for the task.

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and instead of giving actual reads on me/pizza has maintained a general aura of paranoia in that direction.
No paranoia here. My first 'serious' suspicions of you (the ones reinoe likes me for) weren't actually serious at all. Not to say they were completely inaccurate, but rather that there wasn't nearly enough there to distinguish from any given town game of yours.

With both you and pizza, my inclination has been to carry on publicly suspecting you for shallow reasons, whilst not making any real effort to actually read you properly.

Why?

If I told you that now, then it would defeat the object.

Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
It seems like what scum winston thinks town Winston would do.
As I alluded to earlier, after the last game, this is going to be a problem for me as town in this and any future games with this crowd.

There's no way to defuse it, so I'm just going to have to try and double my efforts as town to compensate.