Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Slaan]

Oh shit reinoe lock town

Given Zack commenting on pretty much everyone except Logic, he's either scum with him or mason with him or neighbors with him. I think they're talking to each other.

Regardless, Zack's quality vs quantity isn't very good at all. There's almost no gamesolving other than OMGUS.

Unvote: Logic

Vote: Zack

ATPG and GH probably town.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is there an echo in here, slaan? :P

Luv u Slaan. Thanks for playing here. It's been a pleasure.

[Slaan]

Nah you gonna survive, don't worry about it. Wouldnt let you exit his purgatory until you've done your holy mission!

(This might be bait so I'm getting targeted instead.)

PS: Ty for having me, it's been indeed fun and suprisingly crushing so far.

[Slaan]

[url=https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152969-Chess-Game-Thread-In-Play&p=2053761488&viewfull=1#post2053761488]Post 481[/post] from Zack seems to also spew Kage, me and Fred. I don't think it's often that mafia will ask a partner to explain a read on a 3rd mafia... what are you experiences on that?

[Slaan]

Post 481 from Zack seems to also spew Kage, me and Fred. I don't think it's often that mafia will ask a partner to explain a read on a 3rd mafia... what are you experiences on that?

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[Slaan]

Just gonna keep reading for the next hour and a half in case I actually get ripped. Wanted to play Witcher 3 but meh, mafia more important!

[Slaan]

Barto probably town after this:

Vote: El Barto

If you're not going to do anything except take side shots, you can die.

Zack has defended Logic before who was similarily iffy as Barto so I'd assume he'd low key defend Barto as well.. or at least not go after him. Overall it seems that Zack/GH tried to powerwolf the shit out of this game which spectacularly failed so far. Same for Cuth basically.

[Montmorency]

I'm not going to break my town circle because we hit one bump in the road that was doing nothing but helping wolves.

So you guys can if you like, I know where my vote is going. Do whatcha want.

Don't break it, but if you're wrong you will have to, so like, expect the best but prepare for the worst. What could you have possibly missed? Game out scenarios reviewing your own stated logic and observations N1.



One important principle: Given how GH and Zack defended Logic D1, and then rolled over D2-3, they clearly did not plan for Logic to die. So it's probably not mutual hard bussing from D1 (wrt scum #4 I mean).

I did Cuth recently and in this light, town Cuth is consistent.

Xiahou's vote on Zack would therefore be consistent with scum distancing.

Reinoe picking at Logic and Zack simultaneously, town-consistent. But he did that in his early ISO, so his whole day needs to be reviewed.

Choxorn and Zack sussing each other (Zack harder), the former defending Barto and the latter attacking, then late-day both Zack and GH landing votes on Choxorn without any discussion and veering off at the very end is the sole plausible bussing maneuver. Pizza discussed this as possible bussing here; I'd add the possibility of a distancing feint, with the CFD being a way to ensure that Choxorn would not be lynched while . Note that after D1 Zack's significant comments were aimed at GH, Manasi, Monty, Slaan, DP, Choxorn, or Pizza. This, during N1:

This is choxorn's only post so far.

This is what he found important to point out.

And he voted Choxorn D2, which could be planned spew.

And going down the D2 Zack-Choxorn well (not in chrono roder):

That sequence made me think, hey, I'll give him space to work and do his thing. But he's not made much use of it.

I'd be lying if I said some it isn't also just, there are a good number of people who are cleared or at least look good from yesterday. POE and all.

I think Chox is a better lynch still, fwiw.

Shading Barto and Choxorn.

This gamestate is probably too easy, I'm guessing there's at least one wolf who was balls deep in Logic's lynch. Can't count the number of games where wolves made a hard d1 bus that bought them some time in the short term.

That said, it's not worth too much concern yet.

One of several posts since EOD1 I believe that insisted upon there being hard bussing around Logic. Now that GH and Zack have flipped - perhaps we could say he was lying?

I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who is even that wolfy right now, other than Barto and Choxorn. Maybe Monty or DP for what I still think were red flag EODs. Someone should take a closer look at the wagons.

I'm in an offsite game that starts tomorrow and will be much more active than this one, and Shadow of War comes out on Tuesday. Things seem to be well in hand anyways, don't need me much.

Shading Barto and Choxorn, and also Monty and DP over EOD events.


But I'm getting into digression. The principle for reviewing D1 should be distancing but not bussing.

Slaan and DP are too much to chew for now. I'll go ahead with the others for now.

[Fredwood]

So what are you saying? I read that post and it looks like you're saying everyone in the POE was spewed clear by Zack.

Also, why did they not expect the Logic flip? An impending lynch on Logic was evident since 12 hours into the game. As far as the hard bussing comment, the only person that gets credit for the Logic lynch in my eyes is Pizza, so I think that was just a veiled attempt at attacking Pizza's cred.

[Fredwood]

So what are you saying? I read that post and it looks like you're saying everyone in the POE was spewed clear by Zack.

Also, why did they not expect the Logic flip? An impending lynch on Logic was evident since 12 hours into the game. As far as the hard bussing comment, the only person that gets credit for the Logic lynch in my eyes is Pizza, so I think that was just a veiled attempt at attacking Pizza's cred.

that was to Monty.

[Montmorency]

So what are you saying? I read that post and it looks like you're saying everyone in the POE was spewed clear by Zack.

Also, why did they not expect the Logic flip? An impending lynch on Logic was evident since 12 hours into the game. As far as the hard bussing comment, the only person that gets credit for the Logic lynch in my eyes is Pizza, so I think that was just a veiled attempt at attacking Pizza's cred.

I'm not sure what you're misunderstanding. I did not talk about mass spew and I say scum did not expect a Logic flip in the sense that they didn't take it for granted, nor were they driving it; in fact they seemed to be spending most of the day trying to prevent it. Therefore, what this probably means for the final scum is that they were not doing active bussing with either Logic (as Zack claimed D2) or bussing/being bussed by Zack or GH. Therefore, look for controlled distancing.