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    Alright, I've finished reading up until page30... so not even through D1 >_>. My thoughts now with 20min to go:

    2. Csargo - Was shaded a bit by the powerwolf duo so I have him slightly townish but is in my PoE
    3. Dp101 - lock town, the spew looks really good.. everything looks really good with him imo.
    4. Pizza - lockiest of locks
    5. Fredwood - ... feels overall towny from tone and all but other than that has not much going for him imo
    6. El Barto - The way Zack/GH defended Logic and then turned around and wanted to kill Barto makes me think Barto is town. You don't defend a scum buddy to then turn around and attack another scum buddy right away.... especially one that had an imo real chance of working out.
    7. Montmorency - Imo fine after Post 652. F5 candidate
    9. Cuthillius - uah felt really bad the posts I've read of him.... with not much stuff clearing him. Defo in PoE
    11. Slaan - lock town
    12. Reinoe - strong town read
    13. Choxorn - Would have to reread exactly how Zack/GH's attitude was against him as I don't quite recall for most of D1... it was low key shading but not really iirc... nothing with bite at least. Only towards then end (that only from memory since I havent reread as far) they went after him hard but at this point the logic flip was assured so this could've been just pure anti-spew to try and balancing their powerwolfing a bit. Considering I also didnt like his posts... #1 candidaten
    16. Xiahou - I've only reread 2 posts so far and nothing clearing for him. I think GH and Zack not going after him but after bart makes Xiahou slightly scummy.

    So I'd kill Chox -> Xia -> Csargo -> Cuth -> Fred currently

    Will do more rereading tomorrow in case I'm still alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaan View Post
    Alright, I've finished reading up until page30... so not even through D1 >_>. My thoughts now with 20min to go:

    2. Csargo - Was shaded a bit by the powerwolf duo so I have him slightly townish but is in my PoE
    3. Dp101 - lock town, the spew looks really good.. everything looks really good with him imo.
    4. Pizza - lockiest of locks
    5. Fredwood - ... feels overall towny from tone and all but other than that has not much going for him imo
    6. El Barto - The way Zack/GH defended Logic and then turned around and wanted to kill Barto makes me think Barto is town. You don't defend a scum buddy to then turn around and attack another scum buddy right away.... especially one that had an imo real chance of working out.
    7. Montmorency - Imo fine after Post 652. F5 candidate
    9. Cuthillius - uah felt really bad the posts I've read of him.... with not much stuff clearing him. Defo in PoE
    11. Slaan - lock town
    12. Reinoe - strong town read
    13. Choxorn - Would have to reread exactly how Zack/GH's attitude was against him as I don't quite recall for most of D1... it was low key shading but not really iirc... nothing with bite at least. Only towards then end (that only from memory since I havent reread as far) they went after him hard but at this point the logic flip was assured so this could've been just pure anti-spew to try and balancing their powerwolfing a bit. Considering I also didnt like his posts... #1 candidaten
    16. Xiahou - I've only reread 2 posts so far and nothing clearing for him. I think GH and Zack not going after him but after bart makes Xiahou slightly scummy.

    So I'd kill Chox -> Xia -> Csargo -> Cuth -> Fred currently

    Will do more rereading tomorrow in case I'm still alive.
    Except Zack and GH both tried to push me sloppily like they did DP and flinched when Winston and I started sussing GH for it. Winston sussed harder and I wasn't really interested in pushing for a GH day 1 lynch, 1 cus it's GH 2 because there was no point against fighting the logic lynch. Basically putting me in any form of POE is ridiculous if you don't also have DP in the same POE.

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    You werent much of a Discussion point for the most part imo... and dp had way more interactions with Zack that spew him town hard in my book. I have you at the end of my PoE and will probably reconsider everything before we get another 5 lynches in (or hope that the game is over/I'm dead) but I wouldnt set you on a equal level as dp... never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaan View Post
    You werent much of a Discussion point for the most part imo... and dp had way more interactions with Zack that spew him town hard in my book. I have you at the end of my PoE and will probably reconsider everything before we get another 5 lynches in (or hope that the game is over/I'm dead) but I wouldnt set you on a equal level as dp... never.
    Find it odd that you are, especially after your response post GH flip. I'm not arguing for lock town status (which were your words at the time not mine), but I don't buy that his spew is any stronger then Bart's or my spew. Weird that you're trying to expand POE based off one flip of a uninterested townie, especially since I've seen how you handled POE before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
    Find it odd that you are, especially after your response post GH flip. I'm not arguing for lock town status (which were your words at the time not mine), but I don't buy that his spew is any stronger then Bart's or my spew. Weird that you're trying to expand POE based off one flip of a uninterested townie, especially since I've seen how you handled POE before.
    I'm expanding/reconsidering my PoE because I'm rereading the entire thread and when I started doing that I set everyone in my readlist back to 0 and started over so there are bound to be differences between my reads now and the ones I had when I just went off the live impressions I got.... (not to mention I'm only halfway through with my reread so again, chances are that this list is subject to change :))

    You still havent answered who you'd lyncht today outside my PoE.. ?

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    choxorn, what are your feelings on Slaan?

    Is he deep wolfing?
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    Reinoe's post-D1 material:

    Nothing interesting now that I've done it. Nothing much relevant for scum position beyond 'lynch Choxorn then Barto', not killworthy if either are scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    A 1x Strongman? The scumteam would bus the crap out of that.
    Winston concerned about Reinoe on Chox wagon, but Reinoe dismisses and says Chox likely scum.

    Flattered by Pizza.

    Do we usually get told scum numbers by host?

    El Barto wolfy popin (at EOD calling GH vote Choxorn was boring, asking Slaan why he isn't voting Choxorn if he finds him suspicious), Reinoe tells Choxorn

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Because El Barto went AFK and then pops up two minutes after the lynch. The timing makes it seem like he was around but didn't want his presence to be known.


    Why does Choxorn think Reinoe is scum when he points out Logic-Zack communications?

    Does Pizza still think Csargo is scum?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Even if you Fredwoodwere asleep, the posts highlighted that you were indifferent to an El Barto/logic lynch even though they were your biggest scumreads. You made 3 or 4 posts but left a vote without doing anything with it. The town's most valuable tool is their vote so you shouldn't be dismissive about letting a vote sit around not doing anything. When it comes to "taking a long time to react", I can't re-read the game every five minutes. For vote parking to get noticed it has to sit there for awhile and there has to be context developed around it.

    Post 1202 talking with Fred, who gave some "soft defense of Zack without talking about him directly ".


    Wish more people were talking at night.

    Trying to determine Monty alignment, notable post #293. Winston town, Zack likely scum.

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Abandoned Monty read to do logic and he had no associative tells I could discern other than that he's definitely not aligned with Kage.
    Kage, what do you think of Zack=scum

    Monty seems townie, but clarify feelings on Choxorn; Barto probably best left alone for a while.

    DP Town, Chox is scum

    Hammer GH

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Wanna lynch zack over chox purely for ego.

    If zack is scum them my "zack isn't talking to logic" is the coolest read I've ever made.

    I see people eyeing Manasi as possible scum but for her alignment I see "space cadet". I don't mean that in a negative way but just someone who is never going to be truly engaged.
    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Meh. El Barto vs Manasi was a choice anyone could have made. Unsure why Manasi wasn't having a good time with the game so maybe outside factors? Sorry about being missing, I was entertaining a guest from out of town that I wasn't expecting. If it's not El Barto or Choxorn then there's gonna have to be serious re-assessments done though.
    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Upon re-read I think I'd like to lynch Choxorn over El Barto.

    Barto had some early criticism of Zack that didn't look like bussing.


    While briefly being discussed, earlier I'd like to mention Cuth is slightly spewed.
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    Before I go though.. just stumpled upon this beauty :D


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    I'll check back in an hour in case questions come up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
    Except Zack and GH both tried to push me sloppily like they did DP and flinched when Winston and I started sussing GH for it. Winston sussed harder and I wasn't really interested in pushing for a GH day 1 lynch, 1 cus it's GH 2 because there was no point against fighting the logic lynch. Basically putting me in any form of POE is ridiculous if you don't also have DP and Barto in the same POE.
    EWIOP to include Bart.

    I don't feel that confident in scum being in Chox, Xia, Csargo or Cuth.

    Chox - because of crazy EOD stuff. I agree he's probably where we have to go next because I think they treat him the same way whether he's town or they're trying to sac one to save GH. At best though I feel it's 50/50

    Xia - Pizza feels confident, I've seen him be right on 2 post slanks before so (shrug)

    Csargo - Feeling from his Zack push Day 1 then backing down due to the response he got doesn't feel like someone distancing. Plus I don't think scum will distance Zack day 1, and if he was distancing, he would have been more assertive about it because TMI. Dunno, I just don't get a lot of scum vibes from him now after the Zack flip.

    Cuth - wild card to me, If I have any true null read right now it's Cuth

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    Where would you go then Fred? Where do you see the last scum?

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    I'd lynch Barto today. Not interested in walking away from my POE. You guys decide what you wanna do if not that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaan View Post
    Where would you go then Fred? Where do you see the last scum?
    I think you're both overvaluing and undervaluing the spew and planning too many steps ahead.

    The lynch should always be Bart or Chox today in my mind. I don't see any scenario or any reason to even consider of lynching outside of that.

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    Too many steps ahead is right.

    Gonna re-read Slaan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
    I think you're both overvaluing and undervaluing the spew and planning too many steps ahead.

    The lynch should always be Bart or Chox today in my mind. I don't see any scenario or any reason to even consider of lynching outside of that.
    Well I can think of one, but that would be a lame way to end the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
    I think you're both overvaluing and undervaluing the spew and planning too many steps ahead.

    The lynch should always be Bart or Chox today in my mind. I don't see any scenario or any reason to even consider of lynching outside of that.
    Sure, OK - but is it insta-hammer today? I think we can plan a little ahead, or at least plan for planning ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Sure, OK - but is it insta-hammer today? I think we can plan a little ahead, or at least plan for planning ahead.
    What changes? I think the only reason we wait because I think Bart might be more likely to defend himself then Manasi. I mean day 1 and day 2 has already been analyzed to death. Chox is never getting clear of being lynched, and Bart will have a hard time avoiding it. I said it after the GH flip that I felt the POE was chox, Manasi, Zack and Bart. I felt at the time Bart isn't likely teammates with Zack, but there's enough of a thought that he could be that I'm not lynching out of my POE two days ago.

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    Changed my mind. While we're all mostly still alive let's discuss who should be tossed out of the town circle and why.
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    BTW: Vote: El Barto

    I believe in chess this is known as "forking".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
    I think you're both overvaluing and undervaluing the spew and planning too many steps ahead.

    The lynch should always be Bart or Chox today in my mind. I don't see any scenario or any reason to even consider of lynching outside of that.
    What do you mean too many steps ahead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaan View Post
    What do you mean too many steps ahead?
    It means you're planning out a lot of failure. Which is scummy and indicates you know a bunch of townies are going to flip if we follow POE.

    I forced the hell out of my town read on you, I knew it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaan View Post
    What do you mean too many steps ahead?
    You just planned out the next 4 or 5 days of lynches.

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    I needed townies, and you weren't making mistakes. I can't believe this.

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