Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Csargo

Page 1: NAI / banter

Page 2: NAI / banter

Page 3: Banter so far with GH and Zack, looks like a joke vote on Zack in 187.

Page 4: Switched from a vote on Zack to a vote on me. Disagreed with reinoe's post about logic and Zack being scum together. Explains he was voting me for roleplaying, which I admit, is not something I tend to do every game and is a good way to mask my true intentions. 287 clarified which part of the reinoe post he agreed with wrt Zack. Zack shades Csargo a bit for having contradictions in his post. Which I agreed with at the time.

Page 5: Standing out I can see he says he understands the post where I have both Zack and GH in my town. 333 reaction feels a little forced. So at the time, I actually had Csargo as scummy. My next highest suspect in fact, based on the above body of work.

352 is where I am seeing reasons to actually town read Csargo.

I'm not a fan of Zack's lackadaisical(not sure if this fits entirely, but I think it does) attitude tbh, which is why I voted him. There's a lot of posts, but I expected more from him even though it's early. It's D1, so I'm not sure if I'm just reading too much into it or not.

ATPG is just sowing confusion imo, being cryptic but posting like it has a deeper meaning, and I feel like that's more likely scum pizza than town. He might just be having fun Rping though, that's also a possibility.

Don't think GH deserves a townread, but I think he's been slightly town, but more null really.

Your actions are odd, not sure what to make of them. Could go either way.

Think WH's posts have been good, but I've been burned before and that's still fresh. I'm suspicious.

Like reinoe's posts so far, look good. Time will tell.

I've got nothing else.

The first bolded is a really unusual method of distancing from a scum buddy.

Usually they identify a weak post or two or give more general or vague reasons to suspect them that can be more easily reversed, in my experience. This is a generic tell and applies to most everyone, not Csargo specifically.

The vote based on the reasons given is specific, which is that Zack had a lot of posts but they felt lacking in productivity/content pretty much. Calling out a scum buddy and saying you have a lot of posts but they're not good posts and voting them is... rare.

I don't recall a lot of instances of seeing that. In fact I can't think of one that early in the game.

Upon Zack's flip, just remembering Csargo's game, his stock continued to rise from where it already was.

That's really good distancing if that's what it is. So as of this post the balance looks about even. Many posts and an overall strategy that can fit a scum csargo, but this specific post looks out of place in such a universe.

378 could be distancing between him and GH but it'd be weird distancing.

379 from Zack does look a bit more like distancing, but it's 50/50. And it's also strange that he posts this a few posts after 376, where he's actually pushing back against the idea that Csargo is scum for posting a pic, which GH mentioned he had done before.

This is elaborate distancing if it is. Usually you either defend or condemn a partner in such a short span of posts, not both.


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Page 6: 426 reaction to Fredwood's post, all he got out of it was that Fredwood also suspected him and voted elsewhere.

If I know Csargo, and I can't claim to really know what's going on inside his head in most games, my suspicion here is that he's actually being ironic, and he doesn't actually care that he's getting suspicion. I feel like he probably thinks there's more utility in letting scums dogpile him than actually fighting back, so they'll look bad if and when he flips town. The best defense is no defense, kinda deal. I can't really alignment read this though, because he can certainly not care as scum and makes jokes there too.

Page 7: Slaan votes Csargo, he says "cool". Actually reacts to Fredwood giving a reason to suspect him. In 506 he thinks Zack has gotten better.

Page 8: Nothing

Page 9: 673, I don't think Csargo actually for real cracks under pressure, but he could be appealing to sympathy here.

You'd be right that I'm annoyed/not enjoying this game pizza. I'm busy with school/work, so I'm super tired all the time now. I'm not entirely sure what happened with the Zack thing initially, I didn't think I contradicted myself, but such is life. It spiraled after that, I'm just not having a good time.

Page 10:

1. GH
2. Csargo
3. Dp101
4. Pizza
5. Fredwood
6. El Barto
7. Montmorency
8. Zack
9. Cuthillius
10. Manasi
11. Slaan
12. Reinoe
13. Choxorn
14. Winston Hughes
15. Logic
16. Xiahou
17. Kagemusha

Any of the bolded people I'd consider suspicious. Probably throw WH in there for paranoia reasons as well, maybe Zack too for tinfoil reasons.

This post is not so good. And at the time I didn't like it. That said, Barto and Xiahou are still suspects, and he did mention Zack. But it's basically rand. So he's naming Logic as a suspect but also the people pushing Logic. Which is why it didn't make sense to me at the time.

It just a gut thing at this point, in regards to pizza, I think there's decent potential for pizza to be mafia. I can see why people are town reading him though, he's playing very similarly to XCOM. I don't think it's the same though, so I have reservations.

This is what Manasi does as scum and probably as town.

I can't read El Barto well.

Choxorn for low posts, can't get a read on him. Same for Xiahou.

I feel like logic is different from XCOM, but I need to iso that game and see.

I'd much rather eliminate people with less posts this early in the game tbh. I can get a much better read on the non-bolded people going forward, less so with the others.

Seems low hanging fruit. The bit about choxorn is like, choxorn should always be like that on day 1. Don't think that's a good reason to suspect him.

So far this game, besides the Chess RP, has been essentially a carbon copy of the XCOM game D1. It's just weird is all I'm saying, could just wait and see what Jowy/Logic flips. The RPing stuff bothered me as well, because it didn't seem all that insightful, just sort of in your face, far less good-humored than ATPG usually is idk. Just think his game feels off a bit to me.

I do like that he's saying I look identical to XCOM despite my roleplaying.

Still, it feels like there are two positions here or a contradictory one. If I look just like XCOM except for the roleplaying, then how am I weird or off?

Putting gut feelings into words is liable to run into examples of contradiction, but it does make me a little uneasy.

Page 11: "Tempted" to follow the wagon onto Manasi, to make it a viable alternative to Logic perhaps.

Page 12: Wagons El Barto with Winston.

This is as far as I've gotten.

El Barto could be scum, but Csargo's day one is not good up to this point, and you need time to decide if that's true.