Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Manasi]

WHY HASN'T GH MADE A READ ON ME UGGGGH

[Askthepizzaguy]

We still wouldnt have to deal with the chess references anymore so I'd call it an +EV lynch even if he is town

INCORRECT!

Also, disappointing. Slaan at -1 now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

weak

Vote: csargo

Solid, though. Keep Csargo in check and all is forgiven.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm currently at this part and I think both are town. Dp101 just seems overall towny in tone and reaction and is trying to figure things out (I really liked post #310 of his) and reinoe seems unreasonable aggressive and obstinate which I hardly see from scum that mostly just want to blend in.

Oh snap!

Slaan back, and better than before. +2 maybe. Solid!

Still, leaving your King exposed very iffy decision. Get your bishops and knights out and castle!

[Askthepizzaguy]

That last explanation would leave space for reinoe/Dp being w/w.

Not very likely, but I can just about imagine it being cooked up in scum chat.

INCORRECT!

My 1 o'clock class has better odds of beating Magnus!

[Askthepizzaguy]

chox can be extremely pure as scum, so I certainly wouldn't jump to call him town by any kind of tonal read.

Chox needs to bus all the black pieces and then not get murdered, that might be your big tell. Otherwise I think he's on a good square for now.

Also if he ever lynches me this game, he's 100 percent scum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I read his iso. To me, it looks more like a townie toeing the waters on a new group of people than someone with hidden information.


Winston, this... looks odd. It sounds to me like a willingness to lynch pizza, but an admission that you know he's town.

INCORRECT AND EXTREMELY SUSPECT!!!!

Passive aggression! Checkmate Logic today or leave your King exposed! Those are your options, class.

[Winston Hughes]

INCORRECT!

My 1 o'clock class has better odds of beating Magnus!

Yeah, it's been said.

Guess that was old-fashioned paranoiac Winston sneaking into my shiny new-fangled game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just experience talking. As much as I want to keep pizza under pressure, I'm leery of actually lynching him because, historically, it's been a very bad move.

Capture that piece, Winston. It's not safe. Also don't talk to your opponent during the game!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Not telling. Just to be obstinate.

Correct!

No kibitzing with reinoe. Focus, class. If you want to beat your head against a brick wall by all means, do it outside the chess center.

reinoe plays at his own tempo, it would seem. Snap read.

reinoe still solid. Don't worry about him yet, maybe not ever.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Who is voxx?

Not you, that's for sure.

+3 still, though. Solid!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't care about your suss on Logic aside from the fact that you're not pushing him.

Bam!

My issue is you pushing Zack over logic because "Zack" didn't talk to logic. You're saying logic is scum, therefore Zack is scum because he's avoiding logic. Well get logic lynched first

Correct!

then go after Zack.

INCORRECT!

[Winston Hughes]

Capture that piece, Winston. It's not safe.

I do so hate it when I end up sheeping you. Especially when you turn out to be right.

It's even worse than when I call you as scum and nobody listens.

Also don't talk to your opponent during the game!

Awww. Where's the fun in that?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Townreading for your 113.

"THIRD PARTY"? What. How and why would you come to that conclusion.

Monty always seems to act like he's not playing with either the white or the black pieces.

Maybe he's more interested in chinese checkers? Still, more a comment about his persona than a serious suggestion he's actually a third party, in my analysis. Otherwise it'd be a little iffy and I don't believe that.

[Winston Hughes]

reinoe still solid. Don't worry about him yet, maybe not ever.

That's where you had me last game.

Be advised later readers: if pizza is confirmed as frighteningly prescient town, this might be his blindspot.

[Kagemusha]

Logic and Cuth, checkmate? Can it be so easy? @Askthepizzaguy

[Askthepizzaguy]

Alright and I'm done catching up, yay. Overall impressions so far:

1. GH: Seems ok solvey but I know he can fake that as scum so he's just null in my book. Imo he has to be judged by his success in game and not by how towny he seems from posts alone.

+1, maybe +2. Computer says it's not a draw. Need more time to fully analyze probably but seems okay on a first glance.

2. Csargo: Didnt really like most of what he wrote, an early weird read that he immediatly backpaddled on.. wouldnt mind a lynch here today

BAM! Solid. You agree.

3. dp101: Very towny from tone and AtE. From the comments I saw about him here he doesnt seem to be considered as the greatest player so him faking his frustration seems very unlikely

Correct, although I feel like he's going to be a great player. He's just young, that's all. Needs more experience being lied to and fooled so he doesn't have his board upside down so often.

4. Pizza: ... I hope he stops with the rpg stuff or I'd consider vigging him if I had access to a vig.

On a really good day, I still couldn't beat Magnus. I'm more likely to do this, though.

Waste of a vig, I'm always getting murdered or put in check by move 3.

5. Fredwood: Seems alright so far, not many posts but focused on solving the game.

Looks good.

6. El Barto: no poster

Slow start, anxious to see his middlegame, but very prepared to wait.

7. Montmorency: ... I'd call him toneally scummish atm.. there were alot of posts that feel off a bit. #119 akwardly trying to insert himself in our nonsense videogame discussion, his push on the 'reaction test' thingy (which I don't understand but I also don't care much), #250 is weird...

Seems like he's playing with the white pieces, but I haven't seen which board everyone is playing on yet or who their opponents are.

8. Zack: Actually don't have anything AI on him despite his many posts. The more memorable stuff was his reactions to being townread but thats just NAI in my book (since I sometimes do the same as both town and scum)

Nah, solid. Zack at plus 7 maybe. Clear differences between this and his scum game, which he doesn't usually demonstrate.

9. Cuthillius: weak pop in

Should be fine.

10. Manasi: Manasi seemingly being solvey gives me the creeps. Also weird point made on my, how was I uncomfortable? Cautions sure being mostly w/ new folk but I didnt feel uncomfortable. Maybe a bit drunk but that's neither here nor there

Play seems calculated, but that's not the Manasi I'm familiar with.

11. Slaan: lock goat

Maybe.

12. Reinoe: The more I think about the more null she is. I don't think it very likely that her antagonizing attitude is wolfy but then again I don't see why not... given that its an alt an all. Maybe someone wants to try out a new strategy.

Not null, solid. Ignore who this is, distracting.

13. Choxorn: Who?

Possibly good. Needs to check Csargo and Logic back to back. Then pretty good.

14. Winston Hughes: Almost same as Zack though I don't recall anything he said in regards to the game.

Endgame threat or strong checkmating piece. Needs to be developed.

15. Logic: Didnt start solving really so far, a slight post on Kagemusha, a townread on me (which makes him scum ;))... I expect more!

Expect him to be checkmated.

16. Xiahou: ...

Xiahou might even know who I'm roleplaying as, if he likes looking at chess stuff online. I could also probably do a good agadamator or suren or matojelic, it just so happens I know exactly who this guy I randed is and he's fucking amazing. Best rand ever. Solid! BAM! Haven't enjoyed myself more since randing Bowser.

Anxious to see Xiahou this game. My guess is this is going to be a very enthusiastic game for him and I'm inclined to put on a good show for him regardless of his alignment. He doesn't play that often, so I'm hoping he gets all these jokes.

17. Kagemusha: Well his vote on me and then complaining that noone commented on it felt off... curious where he goes from here.

Normal playing style for Kagemusha. Solid!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Cuth

Computer says all zeroes on this. No idea, but I think this might be a difficult draw. Not a big fan but I don't have a good refutation. I'll see how it goes.

Better would be GH captures Logic on g8, winning a queen.

[Zack]

don't really understand how logic has drawn so much heat

far as I can tell, he is being standard logic, seems like an easy mislynch waiting to happen

[Askthepizzaguy]

Everyone note it down: If GH mislynches me kill GH :)

This post makes me think Slaan is playing with the white pieces. No infiltration of the white camp detected here.

This move is rarely seen from black's perspective, only when black has initiative.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If Kage has been around that long, how does he not know what ISO is?

Picking at, to undermine and sow doubt / discredit. Not genuine suspicion from white's perspective.

Very legitimately suspicious.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I feel like you were more active at least slightly in your self-defense in X-Com, I guess I should re-read that.

Highly outside of his usual playing style, legitimately never seen anything like that game from him before, by an order of magnitude. Not once in more years than I've been playing.

Unlikely to be repeated. Suspicious independent of the large differences between the two games, he was never going to replicate it even if he ended up with the white pieces.

Compare to your champs game. Not gonna repeat, not alignment indicative.

[Zack]

don't really understand how logic has drawn so much heat

far as I can tell, he is being standard logic, seems like an easy mislynch waiting to happen

come to think of it, applies to csargo too

pizza going after the lowest hanging fruit he can find

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh good, the iso only works for one day phase.

Tip from a GM used to playing in the USA:

Ignore mode everyone but the person you're isoing. Then read the thread. Unignore when done.

That's how you GM iso on the org. Pain in the neck, but it's where I call home, so I've adapted to play here.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ah, screw it. The above Zack/GH exchange looks really townie.

The truth is that Zack has been considerably more solving than I've seen from him as scum in the past.

I just wanted to keep him in the firing line because it yields interesting exchanges.

Correct! Inaccurate but playing with white pieces and doing his best, imo.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Logic

Reviewing my reactions, he seems the closest thing to an actual scumread.

+10

SOLID

[Askthepizzaguy]

Here for a bit. Zack and GH are even more solidly town. I agree that Cuth’s popin was mediocre but I’m not sure that that’s damming, from the sounds of his posts it seems like he wants to prioritise sleep over more mafia. Csargo is underwhelming to an extreme degree this game and I can’t tell why. I do not understand Kage, overall not comfortable really making a read on him.

Correct!

Also correct!

He will pretend to be slightly annoyed and appeal to your emotion and discredit himself, as he has done so far. This is within his normal style, but what's missing from all his posts so far: Having fun.

Lost his sense of humor when he randed the black pieces. Put him out of his misery!!! Make him cry!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Now that ive used this brave new ISO method for the first time to Cuth. He is smelling like rotten scum to me. Pushing, but not quite pushing, trying to connect a bit, making excuses..Best bet for scum so far.

Cuth often hangs a piece. Not alignment indicative.

[Zack]

Correct!

Also correct!

He will pretend to be slightly annoyed and appeal to your emotion and discredit himself, as he has done so far. This is within his normal style, but what's missing from all his posts so far: Having fun.

Lost his sense of humor when he randed the black pieces. Put him out of his misery!!! Make him cry!

He seemed to be having plenty of fun as a wolf in Pokemon.

[Askthepizzaguy]

re: Logic

Don't like this post. Hard to say way, it just sorta rubs me the wrong way. Call it gut feeling, I guess.

Trap it! Coordinate and trap this piece, it is winnable, and that will bust this game wide open, everyone!