Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

**Dp101** · 10-07-2017, 20:24

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Zack I'm kicking you out of my town until further notice. I think Monty is right about you.

Well I think this is the towniest he’s ever been in any game I’ve played with him. I haven’t gone through and checked in what ways it is different, but just because someone’s different doesn’t make them scum.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-07-2017, 21:08

Originally Posted by Dp101

Well I think this is the towniest he’s ever been in any game I’ve played with him. I haven’t gone through and checked in what ways it is different, but just because someone’s different doesn’t make them scum.

You and I often disagree on who is being townie or not.

I get why you and most other people have him as town, I did too. That being said, ever since I put him at the top of my town he's been doing his best to capitalize on his town cred and get people to not listen to me and to take control of the thread. I expect that he'll do this, but specifically what he's been doing and how and who, all looks extremely bad if my reads outside of him were correct.

He's deep wolfing extremely well right now, more than he's towning, imo. If I had a vig shot I'd shoot him tonight since he's never gonna be lynched because only me and Monty can even see it.

**Dp101** · 10-07-2017, 21:14

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

You and I often disagree on who is being townie or not.

I get why you and most other people have him as town, I did too. That being said, ever since I put him at the top of my town he's been doing his best to capitalize on his town cred and get people to not listen to me and to take control of the thread. I expect that he'll do this, but specifically what he's been doing and how and who, all looks extremely bad if my reads outside of him were correct.

He's deep wolfing extremely well right now, more than he's towning, imo. If I had a vig shot I'd shoot him tonight since he's never gonna be lynched because only me and Monty can even see it.

Look, if it’s me and him in F3, I’ll vote him, because he should not be alive at that stage, but before then, I don’t think it’s a good option.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-07-2017, 21:15

Originally Posted by Dp101

Look, if it’s me and him in F3, I’ll vote him, because he should not be alive at that stage, but before then, I don’t think it’s a good option.

That's why I won't vote him. You won't be convinced until you see his card.

When you do and it is a wolf, the game is basically solved. He did too much today.

**Winston Hughes** · 10-08-2017, 00:31

Originally Posted by Dp101

Well I think this is the towniest he’s ever been in any game I’ve played with him. I haven’t gone through and checked in what ways it is different, but just because someone’s different doesn’t make them scum.

With apologies to Dp101, this post really dialed up my suspicions of Zack.

The meld with pizza was at its strongest at that moment, and the difference between our models of Zack's mind and the one Dp was using felt significant.

As pizza (iirc) said early in the game, Dp has all the potential in the world (champs wildcard less than a year after first contact says a lot), but his mental models of scumplay are still a little shallow.

And when it comes to Zack, who is the best scumbag I've ever had the privilege of playing with or against, it's really only in the contrast between layers that any kind of tell is likely to show.

If he is scum here, though, then he's exploring new levels of sophistication. That I think it's possible at all shows just how highly I rate him.

**Dp101** · 10-08-2017, 00:39

Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

With apologies to Dp101, this post really dialed up my suspicions of Zack.

The meld with pizza was at its strongest at that moment, and the difference between our models of Zack's mind and the one Dp was using felt significant.

As pizza (iirc) said early in the game, Dp has all the potential in the world (champs wildcard less than a year after first contact says a lot), but his mental models of scumplay are still a little shallow.

And when it comes to Zack, who is the best scumbag I've ever had the privilege of playing with or against, it's really only in the contrast between layers that any kind of tell is likely to show.

If he is scum here, though, then he's exploring new levels of sophistication. That I think it's possible at all shows just how highly I rate him.

I feel victimised right here ;-;

**Winston Hughes** · 10-08-2017, 00:42

Originally Posted by Dp101

I feel victimised right here ;-;

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-08-2017, 00:49

Originally Posted by Dp101

I feel victimised right here ;-;

You're beloved, keep playing with us.

Sith Lords are really good at looking like your best friend until they drop the mask, whip out the red saber, and turn up the force lightning.

If you're getting the sensation that this is happening to you this game, I think it's really possible.

Some people are really good at crawling inside your town spot. Keep that saber up to defend yourself. That's more important than finding scums, is just keeping them away from your inner circle of trust and sneaking past you.

Find townies but be right on those, that's important. Always re-assess, they're playing to get inside your town. And you'd be amazed at how townie some people can look to do it.