Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
So now you're trying to direct what my response should have been? Saying that I have sympathy, something that I stated within the meat of the post, so it wasn't that much of an inference that the unfortunately meant that despite my humanity I'm likely to vote him. The wording is only misleading because you're actively altering the meaning.

Either way, I posted it because I felt like it and wanted people to know where I was at.

Couple that with your inference that I should not vote Logic because he's consensus and lolconensusisneverrightyouguyslol, then calling me lazy for not "voting" my top scumread (when Logic is a relatively top scum read)...tis strange.
My gut says this post is great for Fredwood. Not saying GH is bad, in fact I don't think he is. Just think this is in line with what I've seen from him before. GH began with an attack on his process, so Fredwood is responding on that level. I also am feeling the same frustration with the lolconsensus argument. It's not an argument, it's an omen, and I don't believe in omens. Oh no, people are all voting someone, that must mean something. It doesn't. And it's been like 5 people or 6 people at a time. It's not an enormouswagon. It even got eclipsed by the choxorn voters. No such complaints that everyone thinks it it must be false have occurred. Attacking these arguments without necessarily drawing an alignment conclusion from it feels extremely natural, I don't feel it is passive aggression even if it has a similar-looking shape. It's questioning GH's process and methods in response to GH questioning his.

I feel like this kind of friction is going to happen on a day 1 where everyone has their own methods and ideas and all are struggling to win the debate and get their way. Even when people agree on suspects they begin to bicker on process.

It's like when town is chasing two scums in a mash but they still blow up at each other when the "wrong" one is getting pushed because everyone has to lead and get their way.

A perfect day is rare this early with this many opinions and personalities in the thread. When we see someone getting pushed, and we don't fully agree with the suspect or the methods, we push back. When we can't get our preferred person pushed, we have a lot of pent up energy and we start to look for enemies among those who seem to agree but won't cooperate.

I think there's underlying tension in the thread that is erupting in this post between Fred and GH and I don't think either person is mafia.

Maybe I'm not precisely describing what's happening here, and it might be coupled with other things on my mind, but here it is. My reaction is I think this is town/town and that some of the disputes that will happen here are expected, natural, and even nitpicky.