Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
Seeing as it is now 430 am, and the game is still locked, and the last wolf is outed/lolcatting, gonna call it a night.

Your homework assignment is to read barto and tell me why he's town. If you don't think he is, you know what to do tomorrow.

Winston voted him d1 as well, so his streak is still alive.
Pizza, one thing to realize is that if we're trying to go by, 'kill the guyys who is not least likely to be on the scum team', then it kind of restricts freedom of movement as far as making cases and the day-work overall.

Let me suggest a new angle: what if something that looks like effective spew is actually emerging from a serious mistake by one or more mafia members? I say this because in the end you can't clean up at the early game like this without having taken advantage of serious mistakes by the opponent.

I think what Manasi's case means is we shouldn't restrict ourselves to one rung of the ladder at a time. And right now it's kind of impossible to proceed if you have literally no candidates other than Barto because they're all lock clear. If you've gone wrong somewhere, then where could it have been? Now you need to pick apart the layers of your own world model, 'if I'm mistaken here then it's possible that over there...', and you need to do it from inside your personal process because as you said unless I pull out some really unique logic on a specific instance you're going to wave it aside by referencing the casework you've already built. And it's important because we (me and you and likely the rest of the players) share the same upper half of the town/reads pile, and I think we're uneasy.

TLDR: Treat this like nothing is sacred, rather than trying to find who is least lock-clear and lynching them without reference to anyone else.

It's not a POE if it's a special selection to create one every time.


As far as workload, how about I work the devil's advocate on your core core town, the consensus upper half, relying on your own long analyses from N1 on why they're lock town, if you work devil's advocate on the bottom half, people like reinoe and Xiahou (and sure, me and Csargo too)?



And unrelated, but I've seen reinoe (and Slaan?) referred to here as both he/him and she/her. What do they in fact use?